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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 64 points 8 months ago (38 children)

I don't wish to disparage people's spiritual beliefs, but I'm sorry nobody should have to go around wearing anything like this, no matter what faith you come from. You should have the freedom to EXIST as yourself and show who you are. This niqab stuff is abuse.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 60 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I do wish to disparage people’s spiritual beliefs, so I’ll just say that religion is the greatest evil ever created by humankind.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 33 points 8 months ago

Was just about to say. Fuck organized religion, fuck tolerating bigotry and intolerance in the name of acceptance and pluralism. Religion is something to be overcome not assimilated.

[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 5 points 8 months ago

IMO religion shouldn't exist in 21st Century.

We have machines going beyond solar system, scientific evidence that earth revolves around Sun , ability to interact with people on the other side of globe instantly and more.......

None of these things have religion ever predicted. And sometimes even being grossly wrong.

[–] Zaderade@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

So you're telling me that killing hundreds of thousands of people maybe even millions over the years in the name of some character which no one has any physical evidence exists and the people that follow along subconsciously know it's fake however they are too afraid of not having some fictional guiding light is bad????? You're wrong, Jesus saves!!!¡¡!¡!!! /s

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's control without a face. If you think it's evil then modern society should be hell in the shadows.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Modern society could not have formed without religion. So yeah, it’s hell.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

As someone with Muslim family, they will tell you that it is the women's choice. That they prefer to cover themselves from head to toe, even in blistering heat. The actual choice is to bite their tongue and wear it, or choose to deal with shame, humiliation, mockery, and often times much worse.

The rest of history has shown that women don't choose that kind of clothing when they have free will.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Precisely. Nobody should be forced to wear clothing in any faith that they don't want to.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

That they prefer to cover themselves from head to toe, even in blistering heat.

Please don’t be ignorant

“The authors also concluded that the typical Bedouin costume has the same effects whether it is black or white. The black color does absorb more heat, but it does not reach the skin, so the color of the fabric is not important. The thickness of the fabric of these garments also favors better absorption of temperature, preventing it from reaching the skin.”

The Bedouin lesson: A scientific study proves robes are the best garment to wear in the desert heat

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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

What matters is that they can't get education and economic independence, who gives a shit about dress codes

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

People's spiritual belief should be limited to themselves, the moment you enforce your religious rules on anyone else it's no longer OK and should be disparaged. Everyone should have the freedom to dress as a beekeeper, no one should have the obligation to do so.

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Too bad US had to overthrow the socialist secular government in Afghanistan and then subject it to decades of unending destruction. US regime is directly responsible for everything we see happening in Afghanistan today.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

They did have some not so great time trying to prevent Taliban from gaining power. It wasn't very succesful.

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[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I wonder who funded the Taliban and gave them the weapons that lead to this 🤔

[–] Wilshire@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)
  • Foreign donations: The Taliban receive financial aid from certain countries, such as Pakistan, Iran and Russia, as well as private citizens from Pakistan and several Gulf countries, including Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar¹²⁴. This may account for a significant proportion of their revenue, possibly up to $500 million a year¹.

  • Drug trade: Afghanistan is the world's largest producer of opium, which can be refined to make heroin. The Taliban tax every stage of the drug production and smuggling process, from poppy farmers to traders¹²³. This is one of their main income sources, generating between $100 million and $400 million a year¹.

  • Mining and trading minerals: The Taliban exploit the rich mineral resources of Afghanistan, such as copper, gold, iron, coal and gemstones. They extract and sell these minerals to local and foreign buyers, often through illegal channels¹²⁵. This may bring them another $100 million to $400 million a year¹.

  • Taxation and extortion: The Taliban impose various taxes on the people and businesses in the areas they control, such as a 10% cultivation tax on opium farmers, a 2.5% wealth tax (zakat), and a 10% tax on harvests (ushr)¹²⁵. They also extort money from development and infrastructure projects, as well as from transport and telecommunication companies¹²⁵. This could add another $300 million to $500 million a year to their coffers¹..

Source: Conversation with Bing, 12/26/202 3 (1) Afghanistan: How do the Taliban make money? - BBC.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-46554097.

(2) Who funds the Taliban? Where the Afghanistan militants' funding comes ....

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/taliban-who-fund-supplies-weapons-afghanistan-funding-explained-1158494.

(3) Taliban - Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban.

(4) Who are the Taliban funded by? Inside its £1 billion fortune.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1477515/Taliban-funding-income-arms-Afghanistan-latest-evg.

(5) How is the Taliban funded: Where do the militant group get money and ....

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/taliban-where-weapons-money-funds-b1911655.html.

(6) en.wikipedia.org.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

That's current funding. Who funded their startup back in the 80s?

[–] somename@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago

Surely not the CIA!

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[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Drug Trade

LMAO i trust you'll believe a US government rag whining about the Taliban's successful anti-opium campaign (opium the US puppet regime definitely disapproved of, right?)

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

Pay no attention to the Golden Triangle behind the curtain

[–] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

Lmao the Taliban have practically eliminated the opium production in Afghanistan. Just like they did before the US invasion.

It was under US rule that opium production returned and surged.

So you’re talking made up bullshit.

[–] moujikman@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

Drug trade: Afghanistan is the world's largest producer of opium, which can be refined to make heroin.

The illicit drug trade isn't just heroin, it's moving opioids into India so they can be resold to the pharmaceutical industry for our legal-opioid epidemic.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I love and promote life-long education for all peoples. This sucks. I can't imagine how much it sucks to be told you "can't."

[–] somename@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

Yeah it’s so awful.

[–] somename@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just twenty more years of war! In and out, tactical. We’ll do it right this time. We need more opium. I mean we care about the women of Afghanistan.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Ah yes, let's stop caring about women and girls because USA bad.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Me, an American reading this

Also get a look at the future of Ukraine, everybody

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In September 2021, a month after U.S. and NATO troops withdrew from Afghanistan following two decades of war, the Taliban announced that girls were barred from studying beyond sixth grade.

The Taliban have defied global condemnation and warnings that the restrictions will make it almost impossible for them to gain recognition as the country’s legitimate rulers.

Last week, U.N. special envoy Roza Otunbayeva expressed concern that a generation of Afghan girls is falling behind with each day that passes.

Last week, an official in the Education Ministry said Afghan girls of all ages are allowed to study in religious schools known as madrassas, which have traditionally been boys-only.

In another part of Kabul, 13-year old Setayesh Sahibzada wonders what the future holds for her.

Analyst Muhammad Saleem Paigir warned that excluding women and girls from education will be disastrous for Afghanistan.


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[–] thecookingsenpai@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago

Sometimes I really need to have these news thrown on my face, is incredible that we tend to forget these situations most of the time

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