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I don't wish to disparage people's spiritual beliefs, but I'm sorry nobody should have to go around wearing anything like this, no matter what faith you come from. You should have the freedom to EXIST as yourself and show who you are. This niqab stuff is abuse.
I do wish to disparage people’s spiritual beliefs, so I’ll just say that religion is the greatest evil ever created by humankind.
Was just about to say. Fuck organized religion, fuck tolerating bigotry and intolerance in the name of acceptance and pluralism. Religion is something to be overcome not assimilated.
IMO religion shouldn't exist in 21st Century.
We have machines going beyond solar system, scientific evidence that earth revolves around Sun , ability to interact with people on the other side of globe instantly and more.......
None of these things have religion ever predicted. And sometimes even being grossly wrong.
So you're telling me that killing hundreds of thousands of people maybe even millions over the years in the name of some character which no one has any physical evidence exists and the people that follow along subconsciously know it's fake however they are too afraid of not having some fictional guiding light is bad????? You're wrong, Jesus saves!!!¡¡!¡!!! /s
It's control without a face. If you think it's evil then modern society should be hell in the shadows.
Modern society could not have formed without religion. So yeah, it’s hell.
As someone with Muslim family, they will tell you that it is the women's choice. That they prefer to cover themselves from head to toe, even in blistering heat. The actual choice is to bite their tongue and wear it, or choose to deal with shame, humiliation, mockery, and often times much worse.
The rest of history has shown that women don't choose that kind of clothing when they have free will.
Precisely. Nobody should be forced to wear clothing in any faith that they don't want to.
Please don’t be ignorant
“The authors also concluded that the typical Bedouin costume has the same effects whether it is black or white. The black color does absorb more heat, but it does not reach the skin, so the color of the fabric is not important. The thickness of the fabric of these garments also favors better absorption of temperature, preventing it from reaching the skin.”
The Bedouin lesson: A scientific study proves robes are the best garment to wear in the desert heat
While true that covering clothing can protect from the sun, it doesn't do anything indoors. Yet women still wear them indoors. Also, if that's the reason they are worn, why don't men cover themselves similarly?
Don't be ignorant of the fact that women are raped or killed for not wearing them in some places. Look up Mahsa Amini if you don't believe me.
Name the places. No one is getting raped or killed for not wearing them here in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
I read the laws in Iran, and the fine for not wearing hijab ranges between 5000 - 500,000 Iranian riyal, or 0.10 - 10.14 USD, and 10 days - 2 months imprisonment. Everything I can gather outside of western sources is that it was an accident. And accidents with the police happen in the west too, the US is specially notorious for it.
Again, not all Muslim countries are Iran.
What matters is that they can't get education and economic independence, who gives a shit about dress codes
To me forcing the girls to cover their faces is another shit thing done to them.
Yes, but it is a very minor shit thing. It is literally just aesthetic and all cultures have dress norms.
Forcing women to cover themselves up from head to toe is a bit more than just a "dress norm". Should be able to choose.
People's spiritual belief should be limited to themselves, the moment you enforce your religious rules on anyone else it's no longer OK and should be disparaged. Everyone should have the freedom to dress as a beekeeper, no one should have the obligation to do so.
We need to pat ourselves on our back that we got out of there.
Were you raised Muslim? I'm an ex Catholic lol.
No religion.