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[–] negativenull@startrek.website 88 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Like Firefly, but ruined by Kevin Sorbo (fuck that washed up POS)

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't like Sorbo either but him being present in the thing doesn't make the thing bad.

Hercules is still a good show, despite his Tweets.

Did he actually ruin Andromeda, or is it more of a "he's in it so I don't wanna watch it now" thing?

Edit: Oh. He really did ruin the show. Well. Carry on then.

[–] knotthatone@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago

The original showrunner eventually posted how he intended the story to go. It's a fun quick read about the better show that never got made:

https://www.cyberspace5.net/agentrichard07/coda.htm

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the info.

I remember the show getting worse with time, but I wasn't enough of a fan to seek out the gossip.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

The only thing I like that involves him is that Lucy Lawless calls him “peanut”.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Why? I mean, he looks like one, but why?

[–] negativenull@startrek.website 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is nothing but a Trump Christofascist troll on Twitter. Nobody will touch him (other than Left Behind/God's Not Dead series). The only value he has is getting entertainingly owned by Lucy Lawless.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How have I never seen Xena destroying Hercules. Can you post a link to this greatness?

[–] negativenull@startrek.website 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

As far as I’m concerned, being called “boy Xena” is an enormous compliment, and Sorbo is far from worthy.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Man Kevin Sorbo is such a fucking douche. That was great, thanks for the entertainment!

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Regarding just Andromeda, I'm going to clip some text from wikipedia.

Controversy erupted in the midst of the second season, when series developer and executive producer Robert Hewitt Wolfe announced he had been released from the show's production [...] The reason for the change was purportedly to make the show more episodic and open to casual viewing.

And

In discussion on his website's forums and various interviews, Wolfe has elaborated that he was released from the production staff after he refused to shift the show's focus more heavily onto Kevin Sorbo's character, Dylan Hunt, by essentially making all of the show's episodes as Hunt-centric.

After that Sorbo become an executive producer on the show. The longer running plots set up by Wolfe were dropped and replaced by episodic low brow Hercules In Space stories. Looking at the quoted text above, it's clear that's exactly what the network wanted. Louder, dumber, and cheaper content to fill afternoon rerun time slots. Sorbo isn't exactly an innocent actor caught up in show with a management dispute, since he was the one who ended up getting Wolfe's job.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago

To be fair to Kevin Sorbo, he did tank Kevin Sorbo's career. So he's not all bad.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Thank you, that explains a lot.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Because he is a complete loony extreme right-wing intolerant christian fanatic POS.
I used to like Andromeda, but now I can't stand the sight of him as Dylan Hunt.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Much like that "last man standing" guy

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] dejected_warp_core@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dunno. Those may not be completely airbrushed in, but there's certainly some contouring going on.

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[–] HeChomk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Dylan Hunt... Sounds like cockney rhyming slang... And it's so appropriate.

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Read his tweets: he's a bigot, Bible-thumping, anti-trans & anti-gay, Christofacist, Trump dick-rider, MAGA retard.

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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

A bit of an odd approach to say that a show that 99% of people don't know exists shouldn't be Gene's legacy. Seems like it's just more likely to make people know about. A Space Streisand effect.

While it was not the masterpiece that Cleopatra 2525 was, the first season is kind of a look at some interesting ideas. It was written, developed, and produced by Robert Hewitt Wolfe, who had been a writer on Deep Space 9 for five years. I'm not going to say that first season is as good as DS9, but it is interesting looking at Roddenberry's unfinished notes filtered through the sensibilities of a DS9 writer. Once Wolfe got pushed out by Sorbo and the network executives scummy maneuvering, the show turned into the dumpster fire that it is known as, at least among the people who know it exists in the first place.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I liked it in the beginning, and had a crush on ~~Wolfe~~ edit: Woolvett back in the day. He was a cutie.

Sorbo ruined it.

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Cleopatra 2525

I was around in 2000s and never heard of this. I blame society.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

No one's fault but your own for being 5 centuries early.

[–] weariedfae@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude, it was awesome at the time. Terrible and awesome.

I'm afraid to watch it now and ruin the memory.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Cryogenically frozen after a boob job may be the most underused trope of the 1990s.

[–] HairHeel@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They did this weird thing where they interspersed an episode of that with an episode of Jack of All Trades, IIRC.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Jack of All Trades,

Had to look that up. Bruce Campbell as a spy/superhero? How could I have missed that one?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I actually liked Andromeda, although a lot of the acting was just terrible. But I always enjoy Lexa Doig and Gordon Michael Woolvett as Seamus was fun.

But my god, the smugness just pours off of Kevin Sorbo.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't remember much about the show, but I do remember there was a distinct tone shift in, I want to say, season 2 that made me go from "skeptical but willing" to "WTF is this bullshit?"

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That’s the moment. When the supporting alien character turns from purple to gold is pretty much when Wolfe left the show.

[–] Zellith@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

This explains a lot. I wondered why it went from watchable to I wonder what else is onable.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good looks outside can't mask the ugly person inside, that is Kevin Sorbo.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Honestly? I think he's ugly.

I think he thinks he's beautiful.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I so enjoyed his appearance in God of War III!

[–] plantedworld@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The Andromeda ship was such a cool design, one of my favorites.

And I remember really enjoying season 1 of Andromeda in college, while also recognizing that it wasn't really a "good" show

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

So hot that I watch the lifetime channel.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Part of why I loved every episode of Stargate she was in, smokin!

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I always preferred Claudia Black. She had that twinkle in her eye.

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[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He was like the third Dylan Hunt in Gene's Book?

But damn was it fun but also confusing. Especially in the later seasons with the Sun's Avatar.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think the Dylan Hunt casting had a downward trend.

Alex Cord in ‘Genesis II’ >> John Saxon in ‘Planet Earth’ >>>>>>>>>>> Kevin Sorbo in ‘Andromeda’

Although all the blond women leads - Mariette Hartley; Diana Muldaur and Lisa Ryder respectively - were all better actors than the content they were given to work with.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago

That's why I recognize the name! 🤦‍♂️

I keep seeing "Andromeda" pop up as a movie and thinking "I'm pretty sure I've seen that" but then don't recognize the description. Because I remember this show, not that movie!

I gotta find this shit and watch it again. I haven't seen it since it was new.

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