this post was submitted on 05 Dec 2023
172 points (99.4% liked)

News

22855 readers
4743 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 23 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Surprise, surprise: the industry lied.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The industry will only voluntarily choose to do anything if it's believed to be profitable. Notice how the vast majority of measures implemented regarding plastics — like the removal of single use bags, straws, utensils, etc — are all overheads/expenses that primarily impact consumers? The industry successfully converted those expenses into profits via selling flimsy "reusable" plastic bags, as well as forcing consumers to buy rubbish bags they didn't have to previously, while remaining free to wrap everything they sell in dozens of layers of single use plastics!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My wife recycles single use plastic bags by cutting them up, turning them into yarn, and knitting re-usable bags out of them.

[–] zatanas@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Any chance you have any links on this that you can share?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry. She doesn't put them online and if she did, I wouldn't want to reveal her identity. But this looks similar- https://craftbits.com/project/tote-knitted-plastic-grocery-bags/

[–] zatanas@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I appreciate this, thank you.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

No problem!

[–] snownyte@kbin.social 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Walmart and Target both declined ABC News' interview requests at the time, as well as requests to see what happens at their stores to plastic bags that they collect for recycling. Walmart issued a statement at the time that read in part that they were "pursuing initiatives to reduce the use of single-use plastic including plastic bags." Target also issued a statement, writing that they "take seriously the role we play in reducing waste," and were "committed to looking at our processes to improve our recycling efforts."

Supposedly, Wal-Mart was going to be all about reusable bags and encourage the use of such. They were supposed to have done this at the beginning of this year. They haven't.

[–] Lenny@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

“committed to looking at our processes” but not committed to actually improving or changing any process.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago

I once worked in a "temperature monitored" warehouse in Florida. We used to joke about it, like "Yep! It's 110F in here. Carry on!".

[–] burrito@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 months ago

I know someone that used to work at Fred Meyer and one of her duties was to take the bag recycling around the back of the store and put it in the dumpster.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 14 points 9 months ago

One of the most frustrating things to me is that there's so much stuff that doesn't need to be made of plastic, but is. Stuff like the handle on a food strainer is made of plastic, but can easily instead be made of metal, rubber, or wood/bamboo. Save the plastic for stuff that actually needs it, like sealing foods that would otherwise spoil immediately or leak through something. Hell, glass is an alternative for a lot of stuff, if we actually bought in bulk and had refill stations for stuff like milk, juice, soap, shampoo, detergents, oils (food and automotive), etc.

So much stuff is made out of single use plastics that just...doesn't need to be.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

this is about the thin grocery store bags. What surprised me was they had a few that actually were recycled it seems. Anyway its about the directory indicating recycling drop off locations and not the recycling which I thought at first. It came out because of an investigative report that showed most where going to landfills and incinerators with some going overseas and some actually being recycled.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. Only 4 out of 55 instances tracked made it to a recycling center. Target and Walmart did not want to comment on the fact that they were largely just throwing them away.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

I have become pretty pessimistic with this stuff though so 4 blew me away and technically the offshore might be recycled (but again pessimistic). I figured it was a goose egg but at least that means that using reusable bags is definately the way to go.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

"Best we can do is superfluous greenwashing PR bullshit."

-Industry

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes fuck plastics. 90% of shit nowadays doesn't need to be made from it. You can instead use Stainless Steel, Aluminum, Copper, wood, glass, cotton, bamboo, cardboard, paper, etc

Plastic recycling has been a sham for as long as it's been around. If you put plastics in a 'recycle' bin, assume it will end up as landfill.

At the very least, it's better to put it in landfill than into the ocean or into our bodies.

But the way I see it only things like medical or emergency equipment should be allowed to use plastics if it means the item is cheaper and will save lives. But otherwise, fuck plastic, companies should be forced to use alternative materials instead.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

This is about plastic bags but is other plastic any better? I get the impression that it isn't.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 5 points 9 months ago

The bigger the bits, the easier recycling is and the lower contamination is.

Plastic bags fall apart into tiny pieces, and there's often more other waste attached to the bag than there is actual bag

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Plastic with resin codes (that is not a recycling symbol) 1 and 2 are generally worth it to recycle. Some places take resin code 5 but I'm guessing that one is likely a wash.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago
[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Why does it need to be other plastic?

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Of the 46 trackers ABC News and nine ABC-owned stations and affiliates secured to bundles of "recyclable" plastic bags and dropped off at Walmart and Target stores across the country, the vast majority – after months of tracking – had not ended up at locations associated with plastic bag recycling. Half the trackers launched last pinged at landfills or trash incinerators, while seven stopped pinging at transfer stations that do not recycle, sort, or transfer plastic bags to recycling facilities, and six last pinged at the store where they were dropped off and hadn't been heard from in months.cycling

The locations of three other trackers in the U.S. were inconclusive, while a further three trackers last pinged thousands of miles overseas – in Asia. By May, 2023, only four of ABC's 46 trackers last pinged from U.S. facilities that say they are involved with recycling plastic bags.