Mildly Infuriating

Oh yeah, fun fact, in my former and current job every year we get invited to a town halls with some executive and every year we hear the complaints that we can't keep employees.

Every year I ask the same question, "We keep hearing that we have a attrition problem so why do we keep chasing the industry standard for pay and benefits, why can't we adjust our pay scale and promotion process to actual reward performance to actually keep our high performers?"

Every year, is a non-answer, nothing changes, we lose good people and only keep our industry standard people.

Though it was funny that since I'm on multiple projects/teams I did get the same speil multiple times from the same person and the third time in two years I got called I didn't even have to ask before I got the boiler plate.

Was "A ping pong table and enough free time in my schedule to actually use it for half an hour on a quiet day without the area manager coming in and demanding that we get back to work" too long?

Ill stay at an average paying job with a great culture, over a shitty culture and more money. But only to a point.

How about giving them a raise in pay, and if they really want it, they can buy the ping-pong table out of their own pocket flips desk

If they put a ping pong table anywhere within earshot of my desk I’m going apeshit

This totally doesn't look like something fake with its lack of source or context that was just made to spark rage, not at all

I never left a job just to make more money. But I have left managers who weren't looking out for me, and happened to make more money in the process.

It'd such a bad feedback loop. Employees don't always feel safe being honest at exit interviews, so they say what they think HR wants to hear and HR just takes it as fact. Then they build training like this based off what Former employees felt safe telling HR and the cycle continues.

The ping ping table at least lasts longer than a pizza party, but it's no more significant. When retiring, nobody wishes they ate more pizza or played more ping pong at work. They wish they had been able to grow and make more money so they'd be better taken care of.

Capitalism stops when it comes to salary. Then it's all about culture and warm fuzzy feelings. Those are the only incentives an employee needs.

I thought this was chatgpt for a second because I didn't want to believe anyone but ai could be this tone deaf. then I remembered humans and got depressed

It's especially morbid when the CAPITALISTS try to get you to "care about our totally noble mission, not what you get paid."

The irony being that the mission is always to make the capitalist owners more money as the only priority. You, on the other hand, should just see making them money as its own reward, you lucky little capital battery.

It's like being scolded about the intrinsic value of human life... by Jeffrey Dahmer.

If a company is paying competitive wages then when an employee quits it isn't because of pay.

If a company is paying low wages it will probably be because of the pay that a person quits, because there is nothing to keep them putting up with the bs that EVERY COMPANY HAS.

That's 95% correct. Ping Pong table is dumb but it's very often not about the money.

So... this is pretty stupid, a raise in pay certainly might help.

However, from the perspective of a career spent managing teams, often organizations with hundreds of employees, if you think your people are all solely motivated by compensation, you're going to do a very poor job as a manager.

Everyone wants more money, but that's not all they want -- and there are plenty of people who quit high paying jobs that treated them poorly or gave them no opportunity to grow.

Think about appropriate compensation as necessary, but often not sufficient -- and think about the best boss you ever had. They probably did more than just pay you fairly, that's the bare minimum.

Middle of the road: pay your employees in ping pong tables, increase monthly ping pong table quota.