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Apple Argued Safari Is Three Different Browsers to Avoid Regulation (www.macrumors.com)

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Apple Argued Safari Is Three Different Browsers to Avoid Regulation::Apple recently claimed that Safari is three different browsers in effort to avoid regulation in the European Union (via The Register). The claim...

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[-] Wootz@lemmy.world 126 points 8 months ago

"The European Commission went on to point out that Safari's functionality and underlying technologies are near-identical across platforms. The Commission even highlights Apple's own marketing materials for its Continuity feature, which appear to contradict the company's claims, touting the tag line "Same Safari. Different device." As a result, the Commission rejected Apple's claim and insists that "Safari qualifies as a single web browser, irrespective of the device through which that service is accessed.""

Chef's Kiss

Governments and stately instances so rarely have a proper grasp of technology. This is beautiful.

[-] sfgifz@lemmy.world 63 points 8 months ago

On example cited by Apple is Safari's sidebar feature on iPadOS and macOS, allowing users to see opened tabs, tab groups, bookmarks, and browsing history. Since this feature is unavailable in the version of Safari for iOS, Apple claimed that it is a distinctly different browser.

😂

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 8 months ago

So they're also claiming iOS on an iPhone and iOS on an iPad are separate products? In for a penny, in for a pound, I guess.

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

They did rename it to iPad OS, so yes

[-] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 2 points 8 months ago

Wow, then even chrome can claim that they don't support Extension ok Mobile thus it's different product. Big Brain Time from apple.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 60 points 8 months ago

Safari
Safari Pro
Safari Pro Max

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago

Apple claimed repairing your Mac with 3rd party parts turns it into a PC so you can't resell it as a Mac.

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 29 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ah, there's where all the creativity went to.

[-] remer@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Apple needs to allow non-webkit browsers on iOS.

[-] The_Cunt_of_Monte_Cristo@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

So iOS can be full of Chromium based browsers.

[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 8 months ago

let's be honest, most people will still use safari. Just let people use Firefox, damn it

[-] adam_b@infosec.pub 5 points 8 months ago

So, Firefox on iOS is just a skin ?!

[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago

yep, everything on iOS uses WebKit

[-] adam_b@infosec.pub 0 points 8 months ago

How does WebKit compare to other rendering engines in terms of security ? Is it any better than gecko for example

[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

I'm not sure if there are any major difference, but one consequence is that addons (mainly uBlock origin) don't work on WebKit Firefox

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Of course they did. Microsoft tried this in the 90's with Internet Explorer, Outlook, and Explorer. Sure, it does three different things, but it's the SAME THING.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 8 months ago

Those are actually different things and always have been. I don't know what point you think you're making.

[-] privatizetwiddle@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 8 months ago

I think the reference was to IE4 for Windows 95 and 98, which did in fact run the desktop and file manager functions with IE to enable web functionality. You could type a URL into the file manager path bar and use it as a web browser or use a web page as your desktop, IIRC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_4

[-] acow@programming.dev 11 points 8 months ago

“Are you getting it? These are three separate browsers.” - Anonymous

[-] danielfgom@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

So much for "we care about your privacy"

We all know that was BS but the isheep sadly believe it.

[-] nix@merv.news 16 points 8 months ago

What does this have to do with privacy

[-] danielfgom@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago

They are trying to avoid regulation. That's super dodgy. They are trying to hide something. Since it's related to a browser, data collection must be what they want to regulate, and what Apple is trying to hide....

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You’re overthinking it.

Having 25% of the mobile browser market, and being more than half of the US mobile browser market means:

Apple can force companies like Google to pay tens of billions a year to be the default search engine.
Apple can force companies to ensure that their products are built and QA’ed with Apple’s platforms in mind. This was something Apple struggled with before the iPhone. Many Mac users will remember the days when certain websites and platforms simply didn’t work unless you were using IE for Windows.

It’s a play for partnership cash and, because Apple has always been a control freak, insurance that experiences on their platforms are right.

Edit: One more massive thing, but I can’t believe I forgot. Apples hold over the browser market means they can strong arm the industry into adopting Web standards that Apple wants.

[-] wanderingWhale@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Apple bullshittery again

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 8 months ago

I'm a big fan of Apple's products, but this is some serious bullshit. Fuck off.

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