Not only that, but someone who's either stupid and/or immoral enough to continue doing this. If you've reached that level of intellectual laziness and personal responsibility, you might as well just coin flip every decision you make...
this post was submitted on 05 Jun 2025
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They make the money flow, they earn a living, and they have job security pretty much ensured. That sounds like legitimate employment as far as Capitalism is concerned:-?
Absolutely. People who have not been subjected to system critical education yet often have no idea what actually goes on in the world. Its sad.
I mean, even if we're to take it from a moral standpoint (i.e. it's immoral to charge for services of undetermined veracity), we can't be surprised that some people are grifters when the whole system of value within which we currently have to function is a grift.
Edit: I'd even argue that those of us who refuse to grift are shooting ourselves in the foot from the start in this context.
Interesting take! I fully agree that the whole system is an endless grift. Yes, you have to grift if you not only want to survive but be able to do literally anything else, including arguing against it. Being able to enjoy education, have a full belly, not work to the bone every day requires you to grift (to a very minor degree compared to what normies call grifters).
But of course this still doesnt mean you should not do your absolute best to spare as many people as you can while also arguing for system change as much as you can. And it of course also touches on the cognitive fallacy of asking someone for being pristine to ask for literally anything. This of course is just another trick to keep things the way they are.
Agreed! I'm by no means endorsing the grift, I'm just (as) objectively (as I can) observing the rules of the game. Or, rather yet, how the game implicitly expects us to min-max.
And, yes, a rational system would encourage the development of standards and principles, it would try to function based on mutual respect and empathy. And this would be beyond even moral considerations, to bring it full circle, as our survival has been and always will be collective - no one human being can survive completely on their own forever, and especially not when we're rocking 8+ billion members and we've become so interconnected.
Incidentally, it's why I don't understand the anti-globalists. Like, what are you expecting to do, maintain your contemporary standard of living by doing it all yourself? Which'll be first, figuring out broadband internet, or how to build an alarm clock from scratch?
It's a comforting sentiment, but unfortunately, it's not really true.
A lot of grifters grift not because they failed at "legitimate or useful" employment, but because grifting is easier, quicker, and better money for them (or has other tangible benefits) and they have no moral quandaries about what they're doing.
I am not sure this logic holds because i am not sure anyone has been dedicated to write these for a while.
Discovered years ago that many papers/magazines reuse the same generic texts for different horoscopes. Sometimes different horoscopes have the same text on the same day.
Also different magazines will steal them From eachother.
People usually only read their own and the text is generic enough you’re not going to remember seeing it again.
I assume these will all be ai soon. Its the perfect low stakes job for it.
A lot of gifted and smart people fail at getting a "legitimate or useful" employment (define it, please). As see it everyday in academia.
What do you define as legitimate or useful employment?
From covid I have learnt the only real jobs are Retail, anything to do with logistics, and food production. You know the jobs with crap pay.
Anything that helps society eudaimonily? What else would it be? A baker has legitimate employment, a grifting politician doesn't. If you're a moral relativist you might say things like "but goodness/usefulness is subjective!!!" but that's just intellectual laziness and autistic fence sitting, in reality things are very clear cut besides a few examples.
How do you define "Goodness/Usefulness"?
What are the few examples of "things not being clear cut"?
What are some examples of clear cut situations where people are fence sitting and being intellectually lazy?