I hope the Boss doesn't get fucked up by the Trump administration (and all that entails) when he gets back home.
this post was submitted on 17 May 2025
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Anyone who has to wrap themselves in the flag is compensating for the fact that their politics are distinctly unamerican. MAGAt dipshits cannot tell the signifiers from the thing being signified.
Magats are not american. They are not for liberty.
These are some of the words we were taught in school that represent what being american means
Born in the USA. The stupid MAGA asswipes think the song is about patriotism.
It is about patriotism. It's about how powerful, rich politicians who had everything handed to them uncaringly sent average people to their deaths in an unjust war. Sounds pretty patriotic to me.
Famously, Trump, a draft dodger, used it during his 2016 election campaign.
I can't believe you all are focusing around that particular shot of Bruce Springsteen. It's a horrible picture. Get a better picture.
edit: I nominate this one
Oh no I ain't a boy, no I'm a man! And I still believe in the promised land.
(I don't actually believe in the promised land anymore)
He looks a little like Bret from Flight of the Conchords in that photo. Still agree with your comment though.
Brit? Like Britney?
Not familiar. It's a shitty picture of Springsteen, though I think he likes that one a lot. He's... interesting as far as '80s rockers go. Wants to be deep, fails.
Just grabbed the first one searching for “Brett Flight of the Conchords,” but you get the idea. Great New Zealand comedy.
Great Pic, really flatters his sugar-lumps.
Was that pic taken on a camera-phone?
lolholyshit
edit: see my edit above for my ideal Bruce
Interesting that you call him an 80's rocker, I'd say his best phase was in the 70's, where he drew the most from folk and R&B influences.
MAGA are also Americans.
No true Scotsman and all that.
It's called the no true klansmen fallacy when it's about MAGAs
MAGA wipes their collective ass with the founding charter of this country so I'd argue that they are de facto fundamentally no longer Americans.
So you want to go on record as rescinding citizenship? Slippery slope, but you do you.
Hey, I didn't say it first. If that's what those fuckers want, it's what those fuckers get. It's not a slippery slope, it's the same idea as the social contract (well, it is the social contract): if they won't respect the rules then the rules don't apply to them. That might sound like a good thing until you realise the rules protect, as well as bind.
Yes or no:
Are they citizens of the USA?
Obviously yes, for now anyway. That's a question of their legal status, and that doesn't hinge on personal beliefs or views in America. Which is kind of exactly the point I'm making, if you were able to see it.
'the fuck? That's some fascist shit you're spouting
You think "yes, they're citizens of the USA" is fascist shit? You're dumber than I imagined possible. I'll spell it out for you:
If they're not Americans, it's by their own choice.
If you believe there should be rules that bind but do not protect, you know what that makes you?
Oh, I'm not dumb.
Obviously yes, for now anyway.
That's you. From 6 hours ago. You are talking about stripping citizenship from people, correct?
Oh, I'm not dumb.
Yeah, you are
The founding charter of this country was built for slaver plantation owners and other mercantilists, not the average person. I'd argue that hardly anyone alive today truly values the founding intentions, only their distorted interpretations of such.
With that in mind and the current state of things in mind, I think a Balkanization of the US, if not North America, is inevitable.
That's funny, I didn't see any of those people specified in the document, and it's been updated a few times too. Arguing intention might be interesting but it isn't what I'm doing here; I'm going off the text of the document, and things like the right to trial are pretty valuable to me. Which of the civil rights guaranteed by the Constitution are the ones people mostly or entirely don't care about, in your view?
They didn't want to be, they tried to rebel to keep slavery.
Our mistake in forcing them to stay, or at least not giving every slave owner to their slaves before moving on.
The US responding to it’s problems: “If we change the definition it’ll go away!”