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[–] alexyeahdude@kbin.social 230 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I get that Linus is a superhero, but it's still so weird to me that this vital piece of the world's infrastructure relies on one man.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 175 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think its better to think of it like a president or prime minister. He might set the plan and direction and making the big decisions, but there are thousands of others supporting and making the plan actually happen.

In the past he has delegated the release to others as well.

So if the worst would happen, the linux project would continue operating fairly seamlessly.

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 124 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is benevolent dictator still the official title?

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 year ago

Technically yes.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 98 points 1 year ago

That's pretty much all of open source to be fair. It's a real problem.

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 83 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's also mind blowing to consider that as many other projects, both Linux and Python started as a hobyist project never meant to do more than cater to some personal needs.

This taught me how important is allocating time for your team for their personal projects, as the next school romance anime tagging system could be the cornerstone of every AI in the future.

[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 77 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Relevant xkcd https://xkcd.com/2347/

It is a small bunch of people though.

[–] witx@lemmy.sdf.org 75 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's because it doesn't : ) He is the top level engineer/manager for releases and technical consultation but there are many more engineers "under" him leading and moving the pieces into place.

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

OSS is heavily undermaintained, always has been. But the world hasn't exploded from it yet (somehow).

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you think OSS is undermaintained, you really ought to look at the way 90% of commercial software is developed.

It’s at least equally bad if not worse, with the added bonus that no one else can step in even if they really wanted to.

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't surprise me to see unmaintained software anywhere.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The kernel will figure something out. There are already lots of companies investing their own development resources into it. Would just need a new leader to emerge. Perhaps it'd be a rotating group of people who are responsible for managing a single release.

Tons of smaller but important projects don't have this luxury, though.

[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

The kernel is totally safe. I don't see anything happening to it. Even if something were to happen to Linus (oh hell no, please live forever).

But that's not true for the projects that don't do headlines, everyone uses, and nobody knows. When you install software and it has like 200 MB dependencies, half of those are probably unmaintained.

Also, the term maintained is not clear. Is a project with.a single contributor and some commits this year maintained? How about tons of contributors in the past but only a release 2 years ago? And you have to differenciate the usages too, curl is dead if it does not get updated, some config parser, ls, or cat is maybe as stable as they can be.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Linux is developed by a ton of people. As soon as Linus is out of the picture (say, because he retires), someone else will take his place.

Apple didn't disappear just because Steve Jobs was gone.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not really, the bus factor (or in Linus' case, shark factor) is greater than 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL7BqWDCd8Q

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[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I know I shouldn't put too much weight onto what the numbers actually mean, but it's still weird to think we're only on version 6 after all this time.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I blame browsers for their out of control versioning.

Chrome is on version 118 now and gets a bump roughly every 6 months. Firefox is 4 years older, yet they started following the same rapid versioning at version 5 to "keep up" with Chrome which was already on version 12 but a younger browser.

[–] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

Their release cycle is rougly 1 month. Same with all other browsers. I know because I worked on a tool that had to keep up with browser versions.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even more weird: Version 3 was released in 2011. In the same timespan we went from 2 -> 3 we went from 3 -> 6!

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 10 points 1 year ago

2011 is actually the same year Firefox started their rapid versioning to try and match Chrome. There was definitely a shift in versioning styles around then.

!unexpectedfactorial

[–] na_th_an@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I still have my Firefox 3.0 Download Day PDF certificate.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah, windows are clearly ahead... bastards!

[–] Eczpurt@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Rubbing it in our faces going from 95 all the way down to 11 too smh...

[–] chili1553@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Just for fun bro

[–] REdOG@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Im happy that I'll live through kernel of the beast times

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Snowplow8861@lemmus.org 147 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's paraphrasing Torvalds himself though. It's a cheeky title.

"... and I have absolutely no excuses to delay the v6.6 release any more, so here it is,"

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago

Actually, I think I have misread it. My bad. I'm the one running out of caffeine, it seems.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I could have sworn he has used this joke before? Like in the past year?

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

I don't actually follow the release schedule of the Linux kernel, but yeah, I was a little confused when I saw the mid-story link where he said roughly the same thing about 6.5 over the summer. That said, if we are going to call out middle aged men for repeating jokes, I'm in trouble.

[–] Kata1yst@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Comedy follows the rule of 3s...

[–] creation7758@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Idk. I found it pretty funny

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


"So this last week has been pretty calm, and I have absolutely no excuses to delay the v6.6 release any more, so here it is," Torvalds wrote early on Monday morning, as version 6.6 debuted as planned.

Among the highlights of the release are the KSMBD in-kernel server for the SMB networking protocol, which adds additional features for sharing files and improving inter-process communication in Linux, hopefully speeding I/O.

Speaking of AMD, early tests by the Linux-lovers at Phoronix found substantial performance gains for its manycore "Bergamo" CPUs thanks to the inclusion of the Earliest Eligible Virtual Deadline First (EEVDF) scheduler.

The kernel also added support for AMD's Dynamic Boost Control tech that allows users to tune Ryzen CPUs for optimal performance.

A change to this cut of the kernel rebrands it as just "SELinux" – a reaction to the Agency's role in ops that have harmed privacy, per Edward Snowden.

US-based contributors will also have a Thanksgiving-sized hole kicked in their schedules, making it possible work on this release will be slow and Torvalds could push it into early 2024.


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[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

Two included contextual references got lost - "speaking of AMD" and "this cut of the kernel".