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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Not gonna stop doing it though. In fact, my brain is broken in such a way that. If I see someone else not tipping, then I have to tip even more to make up the difference.

well yeah, that's why donations don't work either, somehow. consider:

if you're the person always donating to charity, and nobody else does, you're essentially providing the community service that should be provided by the community taxes. instead, you pay it all yourself. that's why taxes have to be enforced by the community: the first one to donate suffers a disadvantage, but if a general rule says everybody must pay taxes/donate at the same time, nobody loses.

[–] ifeelsick@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

the ignorance of calling this “people pleasing” behavior is crazy to me. Its not people pleasing to want somebody to have food on there table at night, or to pay their bills. its the awareness that its a fucked system and that were doing our part to support people. the amount of privilege in this tweet is jaw dropping.

its the equivalent of supporting women's rights and calling it “people pleasing” behavior. get fucked dude

[–] exasperation@lemm.ee 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This comment section is all people missing the point.

The point of the post is that a particular job will generally stabilize at a particular pay. If it's a tipped position, then the employer will pay less, so that the overall income is roughly at that stable income for that position, including the overall average tip.

So people who tip less than the average are free riding off of the people who tip more than average, where that worker will make an average tip overall, which comes more from the generous tippers than the stingy tippers. Thus, it effectively transfers money from generous tippers to stingy tippers, on net, in the long run.

The merits of this system, whether servers deserve to be paid more, whether we should push for reforms so that this isn't the system, is besides the point. The post is making an observation of how things actually are, not advocating for how things should be.

[–] cyberblob@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

No worker should depend on tips. Problem solved

[–] exasperation@lemm.ee 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And yet, people do.

Should we just ignore the dynamics of that system, and pretend it doesn't exist? Or can we make observations about that system, and analyze its effects?

[–] cyberblob@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

change is meaningless without prior analysis.

[–] cyberblob@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, well, it is Not that difficult.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

Tipping is one of the only reasons to carry cash

I like to pay by card and hand the waiter a bill or two so they aren't giving half of their tip to management

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

It goes both ways. We do want families and kids to come in and eat. Some people don’t tip well because they don’t have the means and that’s okay! It’s socialized service. You can look at it like you’re supporting the people who are working and those who want their kids to have experiences they otherwise couldn’t. Just like the guy who orders 3 cocktails subsidies the water and sandwhich guy. Or the 4 kids meals and fries guy. You can look at it a lot of ways.

Tip your waitstaff. Don’t be a pos.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Tipping is basically donating money to the waiting staff (in a broader sense, to the management of the restaurant).

I think there are more people in need of donations than the ones who move your food 10 steps.

I would 10000% pick my own food and cary it to the table, as I often do in many """lower class""" restaurants (diners?)

That, or add a flat service charge, add it to the check and pay fucking taxes (this is directed to the management).

I don't tip. But I don't live in the US.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The major problem is the ethics of tipping. In the U.S. tipping puts (all if not most) jobs into a category which employers now pay a sub-minimum wage. Legally the employer isn’t responsible for a federal minimum wage anymore because it is assumed tips will cover the rest of it. In actuality with taxes, many people don’t get a paycheck because of how little they earn. It just went to taxes.

EDIT: Imagine working full time (40 hours) and getting a piece of paper that says “THIS IS NOT A CHECK” telling you how little you earned.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

No your tips become profit for the greedy assholes who own the restaurant, you aren't compensating for non tippers, you are compensating for greedy cunts not paying people a living wage and the fact that most Americans can't understand this and are agreeing with the post calling people who don't tip as rude is why tipping is never gonna leave this fucked up country

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