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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Even if they're not a right-winger and don't claim to be a centrist, "both-sides"ing things is a waste of time, at best.

Like, when Jon Stewart came back to the Daily Show. I think it was his first show back, but it might have been his second... And his main talking point was about how both Biden and Trump were old. I know he's just a comedian on a comedy show, but it still felt like a betrayal. At the very best, it was a waste of a chance to say something that could have actually made a difference.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tbf, you shouldn't take news from a comedian.

They are meant to entertain, not inform. If they side with one party too much, they lose viewers.

They need views from "both sides" which is the precise reason why they have to "both sides" everything.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The comedian in question is Jon Stewart, though. Do you really think that Jon Stewart has to "both sides" everything so that he doesn't alienate his conservative audience? I doubt that you're saying that. I don't think he has ever done that.

It doesn't make sense to try to generalize how comedians act when we're talking about how one specific comedian acts, and it's already clear that he doesn't act like the generalization presented.

I have no doubt that Jon Stewart simply did the segment because he thought it was funny, and he didn't care about alienating people.

The reason I'm so sure is that he predictably alienated a lot of left leaning people with his "both sides are old" segment. I say "predictably" because there's simply no way that somebody didn't talk to him before air and say something like, "You know, this is going to irritate the people who like you the most."

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[–] farcaster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

On the other hand, the kneejerk of labeling every even remotely centrist viewpoint as inherently dishonest is pretty annoying. My own views lean SocDem and I've found voicing any opinion which is neither solidly left-wing or solidly right-wing, especially if it does not align with very American-centric views of the political spectrum, often elicits unpleasant reactions. Nuance is hard, I guess.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Could you give an example of a centrist viewpoint that you've voiced that would be labeled as inherently dishonest?

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[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip -1 points 19 hours ago

lovely flat comparison that only accepts this precise present moment as the only context.

Never mind that the Democrats today are the George W. Bush neo-cons of twenty years ago. Or that the precedent laid down by the Bush admin - and subsequently renewed and strengthened by the Obama admin - are the same legal standards Trump and ICE are now claiming cover under.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world -1 points 22 hours ago

The middleground between racism and not racism is 50% racism. That being said, they probably mean centrist in different topics. Blame two party system not the people.

[–] SpicyCasual@lemmy.world -2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I mean, I understand that this is like a very prevailing thing, but centrists exist. Especially in a modern political climate that is this polarized, being a centrist is unbelievably hard to explain to people. The left is convinced that they are very people first and very centrist and the right is convinced that they are very right and very populist.

I mean basically what I'm saying is that this actually emphasizes a problem and people just blindly agreeing with this is also a problem. I would venture to say that most people can't recognize an actual centrist as opposed to just immediately assuming them to be a right winger. This has happened for over 10 years in my daily life. Before Donald Trump even started running for president, in 2013, I had people accusing me of being either left-wing or right-wing, when in reality, I am very much a centrist. If I use any political buzzwords to identify myself whatsoever, I will then be put into a category that which does not properly define me. I despise the Democrats, I despise the Republicans, and I despise Donald J. Trump. I don't think anyone in the last 10 years in the entirety of this government has been worth even considering for my vote for president.

But who am I? I'm just one guy.

Please don't hate me for saying this. I just, I see this meme and I see the comments and I just think, wow, this must be a bunch of people who have experienced like, you know, those weird people who liked Trump but no longer like Trump. My point is that like people continue to say that there's no such thing as a centrist and I'm not saying that you people are saying that I'm saying that that is a prevailing idea and I'm sick and tired of it and this meme and your comments very much seem to perpetuate that.

Anyway, I'm done. I hate politics because it's terrible. There's nothing and no one to vote for. No cause to get behind that will ever truly fix it just by voting. Get active in your community, physically, and improve things on a city-wide level. And then if a ton of people do that, we'll actually see change. That is if these tariffs don't literally destroy our entire economy. #AmericaisrecessionproofsolongaswethreatentheFederalReserve

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social -2 points 17 hours ago

In a nutshell, what this meme is about is all the people that we've run into who say, "both sides are bad," because they believe the Republicans lies about Democrats, and the Republican talking points on issues. Actual centrists, in Republican lingo, are "the far left."

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[–] MrMobius@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Oh my God, you found Emmanuel Macron!

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago

I may be left leaning, but I am also afraid of giving voters more power over the economy. Everything we do in housing, which is something people do have a high degree of control, is screwed up. People also want a huge amount of social programs but low taxes.

[–] BETYU@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

this is very convenient this just means im always correct because everything else is just a right winger as if that's argument.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Life would be better for everyone if right wingers would just shut the fuck up and keep their hands to themselves. But they just want to hurt everyone else, so their opinions are worth less than moose shit. When a right wing fuck is talking, there's only lies to hear.

Fuck them all.

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