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"Both sides bad, bit aT leAsT tRuMp iS hOnEst aBoUt iT!"

The Honesty:
"You won't have to vote anymore"
"Dictator on day one"

[–] Tenkard@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago

Another one I noticed is they say shit like "well they're saying two opposite things, so you cannot know the truth". Mother fucker, if you dig a tiny bit the truth is out there, waiting for you, but they cannot accept one side is lying (it's theirs)

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 24 points 1 day ago (5 children)

An older acronym for the same thing, BSABSVR

Both Sides Are Bad So Vote Republican.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

Both Sides Are Bad So Vote Republican.

God, growing up, I heard the equivalent of that so often from the less-lead-poisoned of my conservative community.

"Well, you don't really know what's true, and both sides lie. Really, both parties are just out for themselves. There's no difference between them."

"So you aren't voting?"

"Oh no, I'm definitely voting Republican."

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Oh yeah, "The Smaller Of Two Evils" - they said in 2016. A few years later I asked: "how did that work out for you?" - embarrassed silence. One of the best I-told-you-so-moments I ever had.

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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nuance is inconvenient to radicals and fundamentalists.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 11 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The US has little nuance. Your dominant parties are Fascist and Far-Right Neoliberals with some token LGBT rights.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have never met a "centrist" on social media who wasn't. Same with the horseshoe theory.

Let's take America: are you for democracy or against it? - "I can see both sides" - wtf? Fascist enabler, at best.

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, well.....when you've been indoctrinated by the internet the majority of your adult life, you (totally unironically /s) view anyone that doesn't align exactly with your world view as a Totalitarian.

I would say it's a problem, but at least it keeps you all in a centralized bubble that allows you to believe "we are the majority!!", without actually impacting the real world.

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's also:

"Leftist" insisting on "both sides".

-mask pull-

Russian bot

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Russian bot

So a right-wing fascist supporter.

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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Even if they're not a right-winger and don't claim to be a centrist, "both-sides"ing things is a waste of time, at best.

Like, when Jon Stewart came back to the Daily Show. I think it was his first show back, but it might have been his second... And his main talking point was about how both Biden and Trump were old. I know he's just a comedian on a comedy show, but it still felt like a betrayal. At the very best, it was a waste of a chance to say something that could have actually made a difference.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

He pointed out that they are the oldest candidates ever to run, beating the previous record of…the same two old white guys 4 years prior. Seemed pretty germane to mention that we have a serious lack of younger and diverse representation

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

I agree 100% with everything you said. Just like you said, it was a good point and definitely worth a mention. My problem is that it was the main segment of his first show back. Just like I said, a waste of time when there were much more important things to talk about.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I like Jon, but TDS has done more harm than good for the left.

  1. It just normalized the Republican CRIMINAL behaviour by making fun of it and laughing, like it was no big deal

  2. It made an entire generation complacent becuase people though watching TDS and jucking along was actually doing fuck all to actually fight Republicans or help Democrats.

  3. And finally, like you said they'd frequently have both sides segments that the right loved to echo on their propaganda networks

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I mean, they are both old, I don't think that's a perspective that should be discounted. That's not a discussion on policy or who one should vote for as much as it is the understandable concern about whether either of them would still be alive for their entire second term.

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[–] farcaster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

On the other hand, the kneejerk of labeling every even remotely centrist viewpoint as inherently dishonest is pretty annoying. My own views lean SocDem and I've found voicing any opinion which is neither solidly left-wing or solidly right-wing, especially if it does not align with very American-centric views of the political spectrum, often elicits unpleasant reactions. Nuance is hard, I guess.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

As an anarchist. The seething hate I've received for pointing out. That the genocide in Palestine is truly an appropriate both sides thing. That it wasn't just Biden or just Harris. That it was our senators, our Congress people, and the executive branch.

That it was going to be a Republican or a Democrat that won the presidential election. And we all would definitely prefer it wasn't for the Republican. Or that if Fox News covers you without wildly editorializing or smearing you. You done fucked up. You could be forgiven for thinking I had just strangled their grandmother's from the reaction.

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