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President Trump said he would talk to Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney about making Canada the 51st state. But the president said he didn't expect it to get to the point of using military force — though he wouldn't commit to the same for Greenland. 

"Something could happen with Greenland, I'll be honest," Trump said in an interview with NBC News' "Meet the Press" that aired on Sunday.  He said that "we need that for national and international security," but he added "I don't see it with Canada. I just don't see it."

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 28 points 11 hours ago

I look forward to his funeral

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 9 points 10 hours ago

Only if that kid was a better shot.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 26 points 15 hours ago

I could start WWIII, I can see that happening

Don't you love trump?

[–] intheformbelow@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I consider the US our enemy. Even if we come to an agreement at this point, it's the duty of every Canadian to backstab the US when such an opportunity arises. There can no longer be peaceful co-existence unless the US is split apart. Every Canadian employed by an american employer should start stealing IP and sabotaging operations. This is just the beginning.

[–] whiskeytango@lemm.ee 1 points 4 minutes ago

This is plain dumb and the same rhetoric that got America into its fascist me first bullshit policy in the first place.

The system got hijacked. The people speaking out are getting arrested and deported to a foreign death camp. The US will course correct, or need help doing so.

Sit your militant LARPIng troll ass down and let the adults figure this shit out. A war is not good for either country, nor is a need for constant paranoia like you're suggesting.

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 42 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American citizens. Why would he add the equivalent of another California to the voting population. No Canadian will ever cast a vote in favor of the political party that took their country from them.

What version of statehood is he envisioning here?

The scariest part here is that the Republicans are acting, in every way, like they will never be subject to a legitimate vote again.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 9 points 12 hours ago

It's only rumours so far, but according to the new president nobody is going to vote ever again, soo

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

Because Putin promised Canada to him, in exchange for Alaska.

And you only care what the people think if you think they can hold you accountable in some way. Without elections, and with the largest military in history willing to fire on American citizens, the opinion of the people is irrelevant.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

There's no way he was ever serious about it, but i can't for the life of me figure out his plan. Only thing i can figure is that it was some kind of negotiation tactic involving Greenland.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 23 points 20 hours ago

There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American voters ~~citizens~~.

We'll be like Guam or Puerto Rico.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 26 points 21 hours ago

They already answered this question. They would use procedural rules to prevent Canadian votes from mattering, the same as they have done in the US in many states.

[–] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

The scariest part here is that the Republicans are acting, in every way, like they will never be subject to a legitimate vote again.

I thought that's the plan?!

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Making us citizens and giving us statehood are two different things, and I could see the former, but not the latter. Not that we would join willingly in the first place

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Then he needs to stop calling it a 51st. A state can vote. A territory cannot.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 40 points 22 hours ago

The fact that he's even entertaining this is insane. He needs to be removed from office. Fuck the media for reporting on it like this is just one side of an argument that makes any kind of sense.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 19 hours ago

"Something could happen"? Motherfucker, you either make it happen or not. It's not something that's bestowed upon us from the sky

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Bullies don't attack people they're scared of.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 248 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Reminder to the military: you are not required to follow illegal orders. In fact, you are duty-bound to disobey them

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 89 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

I'm quite positive, whether he invades a sovereign nation or not, in some time -- be it five years, ten, or more -- we'll have our own version of the Nuremberg trials. Whoever is still alive that perpetrated or participated in this rape of democracy will be held accountable, someday, because all dictatorships fall.

The only question is how many people have to suffer before then.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 hours ago

Except no mercy this time. No plucking any of them out of the trials to build rockets or create federal intelligence agencies or cutting any deals like the USA did with the Nazi's. Fascists don't believe in mercy anyway so why show them any?

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

I want to see leavitt do the march to prison. She is the present day Otto.

I hope that you’re right, but it does need to be pointed out that Nazi Germany didn’t have thousands of strategic nukes

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago (5 children)

An invasion of Greenland, or Canada, wouldn't necessarily be unlawful.

Remember 9/11? Remember George Bush asking Congress to approve his use of military force to hunt down the suspects?

Well that Authorization for the Use of Military Force, unlike any prior which had clearly defined limitations, was simply against "terror" and set to expire "never."

One member of Congress refused to vote for this, precisely because she understood that Congress was effectively forever giving up its ability to determine when and how the President was allowed to deploy the military. She got death threats. She was right.

All Trump has to do is "find" a terrorist threat in a country, and he's allowed to send US troops there. Remember how he recently decided that fentanyl is a weapon of mass destruction? Yeah.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

He’s already trying with the Mexican gang in Canada. Congress are well aware of this strategy and it has been a talking point one the floor. It’s actually been said that US is more a threat to Canada not the other way around. In which more fentanyl and illegal immigrants pass the border from the US to Canada. I mean he has that angle in which he can complain about the Mexican gang but then he has to also admit he is also responsible for putting them in Canada. Cuz the US is the only path to Canada from Mexico.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago

You're trying to use logic against a man who only uses logic when he needs it to make his plans sound legit to rational thinkers

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[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 129 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Threatening war on an ally, a member of the EU and UN; while helping the enemy.

That's not what a russian asset would do...

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 18 hours ago

The UN is not an alliance. Perhaps you were thinking of NATO?

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Forcing the UN to split their forces between Ukraine and Greenland....

Totally not what a Russian asset would do.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 day ago

Both are a threat with violence and war to independent states, let there be no mistake.

This should not just be condemned politically by every other country, they should boycot the usa

[–] alltomorrowsregrets@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] MostRegularPeople@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Technically Wolverine is Canadian

[–] sdfric88@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 20 hours ago

Technically? He's Canadian

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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 89 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (26 children)

Translation:

Canada would probably put up a fight, and bullies only pick on those too weak to resist.

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[–] DBT@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If we need Greenland so bad how is it we’ve been just fine leaving them the fuck alone since forever?

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