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President Trump said he would talk to Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney about making Canada the 51st state. But the president said he didn't expect it to get to the point of using military force — though he wouldn't commit to the same for Greenland. 

"Something could happen with Greenland, I'll be honest," Trump said in an interview with NBC News' "Meet the Press" that aired on Sunday.  He said that "we need that for national and international security," but he added "I don't see it with Canada. I just don't see it."

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Translation:

Canada would probably put up a fight, and bullies only pick on those too weak to resist.

[–] GeriatricGambino@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not Canadian, but it's seems obvious to me Canada would definitely put up a fight

[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I mean, all of the might of United States military had trouble with the Afghani insurgents. Now, just imagine Canadian insurgents who speak the same language, look exactly like you, and know your history better than you do. No city in the continental United States will be safe.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

look exactly like you

There are subtle differences if you know what you’re looking for.

[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] puckpuckpuckow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I am not your buddy, guy!

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nevermind that there'd be about 70% of the population sympathetic to their situation. That's a recipe for a lot of citizens sabotaging and/or helping them instead of us.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Sympathetic?

We share the same enemy, and most of the world has for centuries, time to watch the dixiecrats pay.

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everything you said, and the longest un defended border in the world. Imagine if the Taliban could drive to major US cities.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine if 95% of the Taliban lived within 100 miles of that boarder, too lol

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago

And spoke perfect English and were undistinguishable from US citizens on sight. And numbered 40 million.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

A lot of Americans would also put up a fight on the side of Canadians

I feel some of that Canadian pride myself, and I've never even been to Canada.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd be happy to join a Canadian foreign legion. I view protecting Canada from foreign aggression my patriotic duty as a fellow human being, and neighbor.

Besides, once upon a time I swore an oath to protect my country from threats foreign and domestic, so I am honor bound to fight alongside Canada against the biggest threat the US has ever faced.

I'm not sure how many Americans would join me, or how receptive Canadians would even be to a bunch of tacticool looking non-professionals with guns showing up and CLAIMING to want to help, but I'm positive there will be americans fighting back. Whether it's on the front lines with guns, or with sabotage in the states, who can say.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm in my fifties so I have no illusions about my combat effectiveness, but I took that same oath and I would obey it in the same way for the same reasons. Plus I'm like 75 miles from the border. If the lines moved just a little afterward, I could wind up Canadian anyway.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

I suspect sabotage would be the best use of most American allies. Pipelines, power lines, railroads, bridges, America has plenty of those just lying around undefended. And many of them are a stiff breeze away from collapsing on their own anyway.

Blowing up or burning down a few might not have much direct impact on America's warfighting capabilities, but forcing the American military to divert huge amounts of manpower to protect all of that would. Not to mention increasing the likely-alreayd-extreme discontent at the government.

And, of course, assassinations when you can manage it. (Ooh, this isn't Reddit, I can say such things without being [ Removed ])

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Service guarantees citizenship!

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Put up a fight?

Nah, more like encourage our trash to attack, then slide in right behind them.

We'd let the canadians help us give them what they deserve.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Greenland is part of Denmark, so attacking it ought to trigger NATO Article 5. I'm pretty sure NATO ex-US is capable of putting up a fight too, even if the 50k people who live in Greenland themselves could not.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This comment alone put more thought into the strategic situation of Greenland than Trump ever has.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They're going to use the cia. Trump would use proxy forces to invade under the guise of assisting a rebellion. He can find an opposition political leader, declare him the leader (in this case, declare Greenland to be soverign from Denmark) and then absorb greenland.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Nope, not possible.

Everything would leak worse than hegseth because they all think it's stupid and have more friends in Europe than here.

The CIA would love to bring this regime down, they hate the worthless inbred southern fried junta more than anyone.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That's true, but how many leaks have you seen regarding the CIA's operations in Venezuela?

https://www.wired.com/story/trump-cia-venezuela-maduro-regime-change-plot/

The US recognized a right-winger as the rightful president of Venezuela and even had most the US believing it. No leaks at all.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Because they wanted to take down Venezuela.

Taking down Greenland doesn't help them and it strengthens Trump, which is bad for them.

They want him weak and helpless, a failure at their mercy.

Expect that.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And Trump genuinely doesn't understand that would be war with the EU.

[–] grober_Unfug@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago

I’m not so sure about that. I could easily imagine him thinking “that’s just Europe, we can win this”.

I’m fairly sure that he thinks the same about Canada, but that’s probably just too close to home to start a war. The US prefers to fight far away from home.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

The Geneva Convention is gonna get another page