Nobody wants to work anymore!
(when the fuck did people actually want to work?)
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Nobody wants to work anymore!
(when the fuck did people actually want to work?)
Some time ago people merged contributing to society and being productive with work.
Work is doing something for money, but there are things I would do for free if I didnβt need to earn money to survive.
Teaching, community gardens, organizing social events. These are all things Iβd love to do but I have to work like 50 hours a week to survive and safe for the future.
I especially enjoy the 1979 citation there
"Nobody wants to work anymore." - disgusted businessman
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
Said by - Socrates
The older generation has basically always resented the younger generation for:
It's like a constant of recorded history. The Romans said these things in ~300BC.
Also about the younger generation being too soft, which I believe ties with your first pint.
As a millennial I don't resent zoomers, I actually feel ashamed for not having done better by them
As for music and clothes... I mean... we had Gabbers...
As a fellow (albeit very late) millennial, what is a gabber?
I also never heard of Gabbers, my fellow millenianite. From a quick Google search it appears to be a style of EDM music.
Cancel culture. It's been around for a very long time, though it used to be expressed in shunning, banishment, or communal acts of corporeal harm (e.g. tarring and feathering, lynching, etc.)
Edit: just realized the question was for something true, not just something that's been around for longer than people think lol
I must be old. I remember when βcancel cultureβ was called βvoting with your walletβ, and rich corporations used it to justify their own success.
I feel like that's more of a corpo relations phrase, cancel culture is more personal. Like that voting with your wallet was supposed to influence the behavior of corps, not individuals.
I think a good older example of cancel culture were the American red scares, especially the McCarthy trials. Although an extreme example of it, they were 'cancelling' people who's views they considered dangerous. People disliked by others would often be called a Communist and socially / economically harmed tremendously, regardless if they were actually a Communist. If you got to a McCarthy trial, you were doomed; that guy was cancelling with the power of the state, afaik knowledgeable to the fact many of the accusations were false
It's kind of funny when someone is commenting on two threads at the same time, and the subject is coincidentally tied.
I was discussing about Socrates' trial. "Socrates was cancelled" describes it perfectly. Cancel culture in Athens 399 BCE.
America's political system being fundamentally broken. People point to George Washington's farewell address like he was some 5d chess genius seeing into the future when really he was a dying old man who had just spent eight painful years watching the country shift into bipartisan gridlock
The Founding Fathers didn't really know what they were doing in creating the Constitution. They just kind of guessed based on what they saw as best practices at the time and compromised where they needed to.
And the Constitution was the scary document that gave more power to a federal government
Plus decorum in Congress. Elected officials were literally beating each other with canes.
That everything is going to shit.
spoiler
Everything has always been shit.
Slightly different tack ... by the time most people recognise a problem, and feel like it's happening "now", the reality is that it started long ago, has been ramping up gradually for a while, but most people didn't want to bother thinking about or doing anything about.
Climate change being kinda obvious. The thing with Google and Chrome lately has been like 10 years in the making at least.
Generally, IME, when something goes wrong even in someone's personal life ... there was something wrong the whole time being ignored. Just recently I spoke to someone about a recently divorced couple who were buying houses and planning long term things months before the divorce. I pointed out that it had to be that way as they were desperately hanging on to the idea that the marriage can work when in reality it had died years before.
I had someone talking to me refer to 2020 as when the Black Lives Matter movement started and I just got so mad. I was just feeling like... Movements don't start when you find out about them and join up. And also where you been? How much had this person been living with their head in the sand? It baffled me
Kids misbehaving in school. "Kids are so rude these days." "Young people don't show respect anymore."
I'm pretty sure that every generation had its bad eggs in the classroom and nothing has changed.
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
"Fake News"
There's been good and bad journalism for as long as there's been journalists
Yup. Only the different names for it are relatively new. The term βFake Newsβ didnβt become popular until The Mango Mussolini was President.
I immediately think of butter, fat, dairy, and eggs. We were all told around the 1980's to avoid them as they will make you obese, raise blood pressure and cholesterol levels. Until pretty recently the American FA was still saying are all bad, then it went to "in moderation" etc. In fact it was all enjoyed and quite healthy up to the late 1970's and now again it is basically back in most people's diets.
Actually, we're discovering, other foods are often the cause of those symptoms, but don't let me knock the advertising industry for fast and processed foods ;-)
Gotta love how sugar is never on the list of things to avoid.
sugar industry pays big money to blame everything else while they dump sugar in EVERYTHING
even bread is sweet
A lot of people I know think that sugar is required to make bread (to activate yeast). Sugar is not at all required.
"Star Trek got woke"
This is as hilarious as people who say the same thing about Rage Against The Machine.
Nowadays, everybody is trying to talk, like they have something to say. But nothing comes out when they move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish, like they forgot about Dre.
Politics is too divisive, politicians are untrustworthy, political campaigns are too negative
Police reform has like a century of the same rhetoric without actually fixing the problem. You can read about it in old archives, and sounds hauntingly familiar to what you'd read from a modern reformist who opposes abolition