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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 13 points 21 hours ago

Serves you right for supporting a Nazi owned platform.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago

Get off that site.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago

Again. Why the fuck do people who claim to hate Elon still use Twitter/X?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

That is the kind of "free speech" fElon wanted.

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 194 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's beyond me that after all this people are still using Twitter

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 76 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Same with Facebook, instagram, WhatsApp, etc. but the response usually boils down to “I like to communicate with people on [platform] and since they won’t leave I can’t leave”

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

But Twitter now has a legit alternative that many have gone to. Unfortunate that's not mastodon, but still.

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 16 points 2 days ago

Worst part is people seem to believe they have to uninstall to use the alternative, by all means have both installed and slowly make the switch, your phone won't explode if you do that. I know I have to keep WhatsApp installed because some business only use that to take orders, but I can keep contacts somewhere else too.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I've tried to get away from WhatsApp. I've got the majority of my friends off it (at least when they communicated with me). But some people just will not leave due to familiarity/fear of change. I'm still working on them, but I'm pretty sure it's a lost cause.

You can only go so far. And cutting people off because they won't move away from something like WhatsApp isn't always feasible.

But I agree with you: I don't understand why people still use those platforms. I think it's because they don't keep up on things, or just don't care.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 2 points 1 day ago

I hate whatsapp with a passion and only ever used it because everyone does. After a while i realised how dumb it is to do something because of other people and uninstalled it. I works pretty good, it's just for work i sometimes have to install it for one person who need to send something.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's honestly terrifying how much of a grip whatsapp has. People like to make fun of the US for being stuck on sms and imessage, but at least we're not beholden to Zucc for our main communication

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's insecure, can only handle small files, no features like read receipts or reactions. I can go on.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 19 hours ago

It's better, but in practice seems to have ended up entirely controlled by Google

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Twitter is different though - it's just shouting into the void

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 1 points 1 day ago

But i need to know what my favourite sportsman/celebrity does right now is the excuse i hear the most about twitter and. It's pretty pathetic imo.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

True. Twitter is ordered of magnitude worse than the other.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

I suggest everybody to read up on the Twitter files.

https://www.ungaway.com/p/twitter-files-1-11-downloads-pdf

Part 2 (Release 2) is where they talk about the labels, such as "Do Not Amplify".

Musk was talking all big about how this bullshit sucks and he wants to get rid of it. But he's just doing the same thing, on an even worse scale.

Oh, shadowbanning, or something like "Do Not Amplify", is against the DSA in the EU and thus illegal.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 100 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

He only means his own.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago

free speech ~~absolutist~~ abolitionist

[–] theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com 17 points 2 days ago

Not surprising, this is the point of decentralization, one idiot can't dictate everything.

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

X is a propaganda machine for people that need to believe their bigotry and racism come from a place of "virtue."

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I used Twitter for all of a day, but you have to be real with it

It's an ocean with a whole lot of toxic spills. The whole thing is polluted, but some of it is nearly clean while others are basically tar.

There's too many people doing too many things on that platform to condemn them all... We need to get most of them somewhere safer, but that's where they are right now

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, anybody using Twitter is ok with Elon Musk. You can give the excuse that people on social security have to use twitter, but otherwise there's really nothing necessary and there's no telling what is a bot or a bastard. Facebook and reddit were heading the same way before I dumped them for lemmy.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If that was true, why is there constant news about him getting butthurt from critical tweets and using his authority to suppress them?

There's a lot of people still on Twitter for a simple reason that has nothing to do with Musk... Getting a population to relocate is hard. That's where they were before the takeover, that's where all types of public figures have to be to reach followers, and so that's where people go to interact with them

It's going to be a slow decline as alternatives slowly grow to critical mass, and eventually the dead platform will no longer be the place with the biggest reach to most intended audiences

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like a lot of cope from somebody who has accepted nazis as part of their life. Sounds shitty to me, but you do you, boo boo

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Lol. I accept that the Nazis exist, and that they've taken over mainstream social media

I also don't use mainstream social media and I strongly encourage others not to. And I also face reality. People value their dooms scrolling too much to listen, only one person in my life has made a change, everyone else shrugs and says that's where their friends are

Any platform that allows Nazi speech is a Nazi platform, but not everyone on a Nazi platform is a Nazi. Social media grows and shrinks according to the network effect... Twitter will only completely die once another micro blogging platform becomes the default. We've seen it play out over and over

You have to accept reality as it is and meet people where they are. Applying your own morals to others does nothing but make you feel superior in your own little bubble

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Everyone that tolerates nazis is indistinguishable from the mythical "good nazi" party members.

They feel like it's okay to be nazis because it's okay with people like you. "Aw shit, nazis. What can you do?" You say. They say, "finally a welcoming community."

"Good people," that accept nazis are the only reason nazis exist.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 39 minutes ago

What are you on about? That is so incredibly far from anything I said

Being on Twitter doesn't make you a Nazi. That's a wild fucking take

Pick a leftist voice, or basically anyone who does public messaging. Look at their socials - Twitter is on there.

Why? Because the largest audience is still there! And yeah, the platform is controlled by a Nazi, and it boosts Nazis. It's a cesspool. People should migrate, to mastodon preferably. But they haven't, because it's a process that takes time and work

But labeling everyone still on Twitter a Nazi, or even a Musk supporter, is just putting your fingers in your ears and declaring the Nazis have won already

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 55 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It is still a pretty dumb strategy to criticize an oligarch on their own platform. They could even edit the words he said and there’s nothing you can do.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Kind of line when /u/spez edited comments of users calling attention to systemic issues on reddit?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What?

He went on Trump's sub and tried to get them to like him by editing their comments...

If that's what you mean. Weird way to phrase it.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Still a shitty thing to do. As a site admin for millions of people, that person has an ethical and potentially legal obligation to not touch the internal database.

If he did it to those users, who else's comments did he edit?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sorry that you completely missed the point of my comment

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

No I understood just fine, but that precedent is a far bigger issue than whatever side of the fence you sit on.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's a good way to demonstrate that those 'free speech absolutists' are always full of shit. They just want to be able to say the N-word again, and they'll absolutely continue to do everything to suppress your speech, especially if it's something that threatens their money.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This doesn’t need demonstrating as most people have known that these fascist assholes are massive hypocrites for a long time.

They don’t care that you notice. They’re just gonna keep doing it anyway.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I get the impression these people thought they were one of the good ones. Conspiracy theorist trumper should be able to be honest with their close friend Elon Musk. What they didn’t realize is that they are just a cog in Musk’s wheel. Any cog showing signs of resistance will just be replaced without a second though.

Yes, pretty dumb all around, but I am glad there are journalists documenting things like this. Musk’s empire needs to come down.

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He's on the record as saying freedom of speech, not freedom of reach in regards to X.

It just means he won't ban you (but he'll do that too!) but he has absolutely no problem making it so it's almost impossible to see your content.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is not clear what precisely happened to the three accounts that feuded with Mr. Musk in late December.

The number of views and user accounts are fraudulent. Botnets push right wing nonsense, until you piss of the Nazi Fuckwit. Then the bots stop promoting you and you fall into obscurity. They were never really popular, just the illusion of it like a concert in a stadium with cardboard cutouts of fans. "Sold out"

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not even the bots; it's that the feed ranking on 𝕏itter is tuned based on Musk's whim, and he's most likely modifying it so that people dot get seen if they're not going along with his Nazism or cult.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Probably both.

[–] Nyticus@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 2 days ago

Well, duh. Yeah let's criticize someone who has full control of their platform. What do people honestly expect to do with Twitter? It's pointless.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago

woke mind parasite control, hes been speaking of.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Those peaches are mighty frosty

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