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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We need to teach children to live both with and without technology; to take what they need from the abundance of information, but to ignore what is not necessary; to let technology support, but never supplant human interactions in teaching and learning.

And how are you going to do that if you collect their phones at the beginning of every day and only allow them to use it when you don't have any influence of their usage?

This seems like such a agist article, it would be immediately shot down if they wanted to collect university students' phones at the beginning of every day.

It's time to start giving children autonomy, respect, and not treating them like something to overprotect or be scared of.

[–] kofe@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Collecting personal phones and such makes sense if they have devices strictly for school. They could even benefit from having time set aside as they grow to learn how to program the tech themselves. Structure out time for group activities for younger ages, sharing one tablet between like 4 kids. Monitor how they're using the devices between the school days and make sure they aren't adding shit that's distracting from the lessons.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first school shooting that a student wasn't able to call/text their parent would result in every parent suing and this being reversed.

[–] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

No? I understand why they would be upset, but I don't see that being a big enough issue to change this policy (as it doesnt really tangibly affect any aspects of a shooting).

[–] platysalty@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I say collect everyone's phones at the beginning of class. Students are here to study, teachers are here to teach.

Put that crap away and pull out a pencil, damn it.

[–] kofe@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Ignoring the capabilities kids have by denying them lessons on technology could be a bit detrimental to their potential imo. There's a middle ground that I offered in a response below

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Teaching a kid there is a time and place to use their devices is educational. Confiscating personal property to limit access is just creating problems.

Also, who is paying for the $2000 smart phone that got cracked/lost/stolen while confiscated?

As I said in a comment above, good luck not getting sued by the parents during a school shooting / emergency and their kid cannot contact them.

[–] faintedheart@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here no school students are allowed to take even a basic phone. It's been like that since the launch of phones.

[–] dzaffaires@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I was surprised to find a few years ago that phones were allowed in classes. It makes absolutely no sense to me. What is the positive side to letting them in?

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So now that we have removed the distraction of cell phones, we can get kids to focus on - what exactly? A curriculum that favors rote memorization, where children cannot even relieve themselves without an authority figure allowing them to do so, where they are forced to sit still for hours to better prepare them for mind numbing, pointless office jobs, and where we can teach them skill that were obsolete 30 years ago, and will be even more once they hit the job market?

Abolish kid prisons.

[–] Sternout@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems you attended a really bad school.

What's your suggestion? Make them work in coal mines?

[–] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 1 year ago

Unacceptable. There's no cell reception down there.

[–] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm here for it. Kids these days have such short attention spans.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everyone has short attention spans, not just children. This is a systematic issue(and has been one for nearly 30 years) related to how people get their dopamine fixes.

[–] MariaRomanov@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

I agree with you.

[–] luffyuk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[–] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I'm 41 and I zoned out halfway through this comment