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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 39 points 2 days ago

Annie got a gun but not a brain. Without the right to due process for EVERYONE, the state can just snatch anyone they want off the street and claim the person they snatched is a member of a group that isn't entitled to due process. The person, even if they are a citizen, will have no hearing or trial, no right to contact anyone, and be whisked away to a secret prison labor camp or even a death camp. Hey Annie, I'm from the government and I've decided you look like a foreigner. No phone calls, no judge, no jury, straight to the camp with you. #Fascism #PoliceState #MagaIdiot

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That about sums it up. They don't believe the outgroup deserves rights. But if the outgroup doesn't have rights nobody does, they're just privileges that can be taken away at any time

And, it should be noted, the purpose of due process includes to check if these people are breaking any rules and if they're supposed to be here as well as if they're citizens.

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 103 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When your knowledge of the constitution is based on vibes.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"The new trend 'Vibe Governing' is sweeping the nation as lawmakers just ask racist AIs with no knowledge of the bills they're actually writing"

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[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago

Without due process, we have no way to know for sure if they are 'illegal aliens' or just citizens with the wrong [fill in the blank].

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 60 points 2 days ago

I think I just caught a glimpse of the suffering of Americans who use, well, American social media. Y'all have it rough.

[–] callyral@pawb.social 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

non-american here, what is an "alien" in this context? i imagine it doesn't mean "extraterrestrial"

edit: actually nvm, i just searched it up. why are people being called aliens? does this word even fit that role?

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago

I think it's the original definition of the word alien, but I might be wrong. Kinda derogatory now but still used in legal contexts

[–] AlexLost@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm an alien, I'm a legal alien. I'm an Englishman in New York

[–] uid0gid0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you the guy Sting wrote the song about?

[–] AlexLost@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nope. I like my toast done on both sides.

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

yes it's the appropriate term with the same meaning dating back to its original latin meaning, well before the concept of extraterrestrials

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Where did you think the scifi term alien came from?

It just means foreigner, people will even use it as a verb

Something is alien (unknown) to me

Alienate is to exclude

Comes from here https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/alienus#Latin

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[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Rhetorical, just FYI. I’m an American in Germany and I’ve literally never met a native German speaker who wasn’t a linguistics professor who didn’t say “rethoric” though, so it’s not a big mistake at all. I do wonder if there was a misprint in a popular textbook or something though, because it’s weirdly consistent, even more so than I would expect from a word with a silent (in German) h somewhere.

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I get their thought process. To them, the constitution applies only to US citizens. They are stupid fucks for sure, but I get it.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 days ago

Isn't that the entire thought process behind Guantanamo? The constitution applies in the us, move them outside our borders and we can do whatever we want. By the same logic, the constitution applies to citizens (when on us soil), not a citizen, no constitutional protections.

To be clear, I'm entirely against this, and I don't think that's actually how our laws work, just furthering your point of understanding how the stupid fucks get there. The US has been skirting it's own laws and letter-of-the-lawing it to get around whatever it doesn't like + outright ignoring and violating our own laws when it suits us for so long that who the fuck knows what they'll do, and how they'll justify it, and who can blame a MAGAt for not knowing how it actually works

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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I mean the us has never followed due process in the way advocates frame it. As well as this originalists like Thomas and Scalia have always opposed it. Look at dred scott for a history of this. Even in theory due process is not the greatest. This person is wrong and almost certainly extremely bigoted but not as " out there" as some of these comments think.

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[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

She only cares about the 2nd amendment.

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[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago

All she cares about it herself

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Judging by the user name, they only care about the 2nd amendment.

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[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

This is why US concentration camps are in Guntanamo Bay and El Salvador

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