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Gaza death toll tops 5,000, nearly half of them children: Officials (www.aljazeera.com)

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Israel has continued bombarding Gaza’s south despite telling 1.1 million people in the north of the besieged enclave to relocate there ahead of an expected ground offensive.

“We were displaced from Tal al-Hawa to Rafah at the request of the Israeli army, and this is what happened to us. My son is a 3-month-old martyr,” the father of a child killed in an attack in Rafah told Al Jazeera.

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[-] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 66 points 8 months ago

Where are all those people wailing about Hamas being monsters for killing babies? This should make them even angrier and louder.

[-] Arrakis@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Now don't be silly, you're implying there is logic and reason to their arguments instead of just emotion.

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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago

1.67 "9/11"s worth of death, in retaliation for 0.47 "9/11"s worth of dead on Oct 7th.

Or, with 9/11= 2977 and the Iraq war killing 187,000 civilians, we get a ~63:1 misplaced retaliation vs. initial attack ratio. So the one could extrapolate from the 1400 dead on Oct 7th that 88,200 innocent people in Gaza will need to be killed to quench the IDF's rage.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Why not count the Afghans too? People keep forgetting that happened for some reason... Which is weird considering they were the first ones to be attacked in retaliation and Iraq wasn't an answer to 9/11...

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

People absolutely saw Iraq as retaliation for 9/11 too. The bush admin repeatedly lied about Iraq having ties to Al Qaeda.

[-] Arrakis@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Those pesky weapons of mass destruction hidden all over Iraq just had to be destroyed! Evidence? What evidence? We don't need evidence!!

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[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 22 points 8 months ago

Nothing will ever quench their rage. It's all they have.

Equally importantly, they never cared about the lives of people in Gaza. We see this all the time in war... If killing 63 number of enemies will save even 1 of our own lives, we'll do it. Doesn't matter if it's 63, or 6,300, or 630,000, because the enemies' lives aren't worth anything to them.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Israel has been governed by far right ultra-nationalist racists for decades now and Arabs are üntermensch in their eyes, especially Palestinians, hency why they have an Arab Israeli Citizenship separate from the Jewish Israeli Citizenship and with fewer rights and why they have very openly called them "human animals".

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[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

You missed something in your math there. IDF is considering the October 7th attack as "10 time worse than 9/11" so up those numbers close to 900,000. Maybe make it 911,911 for the fun propaganda value. With more than half of the 2.2 million Gaza population (although maybe we should start counting the West Bank killings as it is ramping up, too) being children and seeing how Israeli government doesn't discriminate , maybe they can quench their bloodthrist with young blood alone, even.

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

America has a population that is 35 larger than Israel. If America had lost the same percentage of their population as Israel did on Oct 7th, it would be ~49,420 dead, or the equivalence of 16 "9/11"s. That is why Biden said 10 times worse than 9/11.

Iraq currently has a population of 43.5 million. 187k is 0.42% of it's population. If we do it by percent of population, Gaza has 2 million people, so the retaliation would kill "only" 8,600.

[-] hglman@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Oh, so good news, the blood fugue is close to an end. I was worried this would get worse. /s

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[-] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 57 points 8 months ago

Yeah killing innocent children isn't the solution to anything. Shameful shit that the Whitehouse supports this horror

[-] shrugal@lemm.ee 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The EU just confirmed that they are fine with this as well. Apparently they see no problem as long as Israel says they are trying to hit terrorists. Un-f*cking-believable!

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[-] cloud@lazysoci.al 56 points 8 months ago

If you live in USA or EU your government is ok with this

[-] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 43 points 8 months ago

Since I live in the USA, actually we fund it to the tune of several billion a year and then some.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 8 months ago

You think we like our governments?

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[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 46 points 8 months ago

Cryptofascists will cite dead children to justify slaughtering many times more children in retaliation, each and every time, because they see those that are killed in that retaliation as less than human. us-foreign-policy

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 8 months ago

bEiNg PrO-pAlEsTiNe Is MeAn To JeWiSh PeOpLe

[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 37 points 8 months ago

The previous mayor of Barcelona, Ada Colau, ended their status as sister city with Tel Aviv over the systematic crimes from the state of Israel against Palestinians. The immediate reaction of the Israeli embassy was denouncing her as antisemitic, both in the media and in courts, which recently found her innocent.

The position that denouncing Israeli crimes is antisemitic has been the official position of Israel for decades, and that's a very dangerous game for the well-being of Jews in a world where actual nazis are slowly gaining power, because once you're run the term down through the ground, calling actual hate crimes against Jews "antisemitic" will no longer have any meaning.

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[-] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago

That’s antisemitism /s

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago

Genocide by Zionist criminals.

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[-] jackpot@lemmy.ml 32 points 8 months ago

oh my fucking god

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 30 points 8 months ago

Does the UN or some other more neutral org have numbers? I mean, the Gaza Ministry of Health kinda has incentive to exaggerate civilian casualties, just like the IDF has incentive to say "everyone in that playground we hit with that airstrike was an Islamic Jihad Terrorist".

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[-] generalpotato@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

This gut wrenching. Fuck those in power responsible for this.