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I've opened Lemmy today to lots of anti Canadian sentiment on any recent comments about how messed up 'murica is and it's constant attacks on Canadian sovereignty.

Don't get sucked in. Let them yell into a void. The online campaign has begun in earnest on Lemmy and it's time to point it out and recognise it for what it is.

These are not real people. They are actors trying to affect our decisions as always happens when American exceptionalism is challenged. Our government had the balls to stand up and say no. We have the balls to do the same. They do not like it and will attack you for it.

Don't fall for the bait.

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 23 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm guessing whomever/wherever you're seeing is either defederated or, more likely, blocked by me. In any case, pay them no mind if you do see them.

[–] Isaac@waterloolemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

This guys right, we gotta try not to feed the trolls.

Also don't be a sucker! https://youtu.be/vGAqYNFQdZ4

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lol wut. I think its bots. Very few people hate Canadians.

[–] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 19 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Give it a few months. The right wing propaganda machine always finds a way.

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[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wanted to ask - Where on the fediverse are people seeing this? I took a quick peek at lemmy.world/c/politics and lemmy.world/c/world (in particular https://lemmy.world/post/26969666 ) and I didn't see anything like what this post is describing there.

A lot of the comments from this post point to examples from Spez's site or Musk's site, which would make more sense to me. But lemmy? C'mon..

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[–] Aphelion@lemm.ee 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

As someone who lives in America, I would like to say, please keep it up my Canadian friends! The more the rest of the world buys and builds their own, the more you undermine Lil Donnie's Fascist Clown Show, and create better options for everyone in the long-term.

Breaking U.S. tech dominance is one of the best ways to put some equality back in the world.

[–] Duranie@leminal.space 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a fellow American, I have nothing but love for our Canadian neighbors!

Whatever happens the next few years, I can only hope we get the opportunity to have an election and vote some adults back in, and start repairing relationships. Yes, I threw up a little with that. 😒.

Definitely not the case that all USians are following the current mad prez...

Heck, Canada remains a favourite for many from the US still, see https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/03/12/donald-trump-transphobia-us-family-seeking-asylum/ (and good luck to them!)

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m not seeing a lot of this thankfully — makes me wonder if a lot of these anti-Canada posts are coming from a particular instance I’ve already blocked.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

First thing that came across my mind when i read this post, "oh thats what hexbears up to now."

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

????

I mean like them or not I don't think Hexbear users would be doing that. They'd be excited to see the isolation and collapse of the US empire.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee -1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (4 children)

Idk what they stand for. I never actually understood what they valued or were trying to accomplish. To me, they seemed like trolls who had nothing better to do than pick an arguments on the interent with no real goal except to pwn the internet. They just annoyed me and i blocked them

Theyre the only instance i have blocked, and since i hadnt seen anything that OP was referring to, i assumed it was them

Edit:typos

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[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 22 hours ago

Canada's still part of the West. Therefore, evil and bad according to those folk.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's just ramping up on the bot farms, they're really looking for angles to blame Canada for bird flu and just being rude (irony, I know).

It's been slow to get traction, most people don't care and don't want a political fight this soon after the election.

[–] gianni@lemmy.ca 5 points 22 hours ago

I don't think the bot farms will be targeting the six of us on Lemmy who are all relatively technically inclined. Probably aimed at the masses on the larger platforms.

[–] cheeseburger@lemmy.ca 72 points 1 day ago (29 children)

Find a Lemmy app that has user tagging (I use Voyager, and previously Connect) and when you see these users make a note of each one with a red tag so they stand out when you're browsing.

You'll start to see the bastards turning up in all kinds of conversations as well as posting ridiculous shit. That's what I did with the Russian/American trolls/bots during the american election. Very enlightening to see in a political thread who the repeat offender shit-disturbers are so you can down vote, argue with, or report them instead of blocking them and allowing their infection to spread.

Tagging is handy for nice people as well; the community of people around you on Lemmy starts to look more familiar, smaller, and friendlier than you realize, and dick heads become easier to spot.

[–] thijsje@social.vivaldi.net 1 points 12 hours ago

@cheeseburger @Perhapsjustsniffit Oh thats a good one. Thanks for the tip

[–] nevermind@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago

Wow, as a computer dunce I had never heard of tagging. Alway, I’ve managed to do it. Very interesting idea. Thank you.

[–] GameGod@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some kind of crowd-sourced tagging would be a cool anti-troll technique. A lot of less experienced websurfers struggle to spot "inauthentic behaviour" (bots, astroturfing, etc) so it could be beneficial. Reddit has a huge problem with sleeper accounts though, where they build up reputation with low-effort comments over years, then activate when a campaign needs them. The social media marketers seem to sometimes use the same techniques as the state-sponsored troll farms.

[–] overcooked_sap@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Every single social platform has tried to do this and failed. Once a platform reaches critical mass the bits, scammers, etc… move in and start exploiting any “honour” mechanism that might exist.

Probably the best I’ve come across is ycombinator news but that’s pretty niche.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

I love Nothmexico!

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 129 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Canada gov should ban X, at least for pre-election

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 85 points 1 day ago (5 children)

X should be banned full stop.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 points 21 hours ago

Facebook especially

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Government should be supporting democracy by providing publicly funded and managed spaces for debate and the release of information, especially government information. Abandoning these spaces to corporations is abdication of responsibility and compromises our democracy. It is not necessary to ban X, but it is not acceptable to require people to use X just to receive information from or communicate with our own public services.

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[–] GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is even more rampant and unchecked on Reddit - the Buy Canadian subreddit is infested with either outright "MURRICA FUKKKIN A BRO" types or the more subtle "concern trolls"


"Won't you miss this product? What will you do when you can't afford things anymore? Don't you realize these companies employ Canadians - why do you want to hurt your neighbours?" Yeah - not here for that noise.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 23 hours ago

hopefully people will see through it and it’ll backfire and just reinforce people staying strong

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Unfortunately some of them are real people, I've had voice conversations with people who believe the bullshit line that "Canada and Mexico are taking advantage of us" that's coming out of these figureheads they blindly follow.

They have zero critical thinking abilities, and that means they can't be reasoned out of their position by showing them facts or asking them to prove their logic.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

The amount of disinformation towards Canada in the red states is insane, and has been going on for a while.

People are literally being brainwashed, it’s downright scary.

[–] Englishgrinn@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

It's true - I can remember a year ago, maybe two? Back when he was still on Fox News Tucker Carlson was constantly on about how we were under a tyrannical dictatorship and how Americans should "free" us. This "not viable as a country" thing is just another attempt at justifying their aggression and it's just as hollow and stupid. The lies and fallacies just cycle through until something sticks, it's the goals that remain the same.

The truth is, they want us out of the way because our multiculturalism and socialism are threats to their siloed reality. We're too similar to them, too successful. We're a living repudiation of everything they believe, of all the lies they need to be true to justify their cruelty and bigotry.

We were never going to be allowed to live in peace, for no other reason than we are a constant reminder of the truth.

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not so sure - yes don't feed the trolls but we can't just let them control the narrative. When Elon starts posting made-up polls on Twitter showing Canadians want to join the US, we need to have started the precedent already that that is a lie. I say, don't give up any space for free.

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

Oh I agree with not allowing the space to be overrun and go unchecked. I mean for individuals to recognise it for what it is right now. That stirring of the pot.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago

Good. Let these idiots be loud. Let every Canadian see what the Fuck Yeah 'Muricans think of us, so that the sting lasts as long as possible. We don't want to get lulled back into business as usual once Asshole Donny bits the bullet.

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Good thing as a Canadian I don't care what Americans THINK of us too much. They value their independence so do we.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah but having the sentiment out there can still harm our own politics by giving rise to the people within Canada who support fascism (indirectly or directly). I don't know anyone who gives a fuck that Americans might not like us but I know at least a few who think that our government should be following in the footsteps of Americans, and given that I live in a fairly liberal city, I can only imagine it's much worse in some of the other areas.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is how it started with trump in America. The social media brigades and odd social networking that just seems illegitimate. It's sad watching CA Europe getting bombarded with the same methods they used in America. I'm watching it happen to you guys the same way it happened here.

Start planning now. Observe silently and don't participate in their theater. It's meant to entice you they are fueled by reaction to it. Observe silently and plan so that you can always be ready. They will always turn any real talk into pointless debate. There is never a way to talk a real conversation with these people and that's on purpose. I've been dealing with these people since 2016. It's like a full-time job keeping my guard up against the manipulation.

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[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Some of them might be real people.

Scapegoating is an extremely successful technique. Instead of dealing with the complexities of the modern world, the supposed strong man can just give people easy and reassuring answers.

Americans problems are not because of unchecked capitalism and the wilful dismantling of the scientific, legal, economic, and political systems designed to help them. It’s because Canada, led by its Mexican Drug Cartels, are taking advantage of them.

Never mind that it’s patently stupid. Never mind that the system of getting access to our raw materials for cheap so they could process them in their countries and their industries was overwhelming as good for them as it was bad for us.

Never mind reality — what matters is that an easy answer was given. It’s not them, they don’t have to confront any harsh truths, or take any painful looks in the mirror, or have to step out of their comfort zone. The Americans were given the answer to their problems by their King, and that answer is Canada.

So the “strong man” strikes at Canada to show how tough they are. And to no one’s surprise, Canada doesn’t take it lying down. We stand up for ourselves and hit back — saying that surely when they see pain they will stop and reflect.

But no, they don’t. Because our hitting back justifies our already-established status as villain. How dare Canada threaten to levy energy exports, says the King. The Canadians have no decency.

And so, feeling the pain we caused, the Americans listen to their King, and they blame us because that is the easy answer. They don’t have to think, they don’t have to pause the sportsball game or the reality tv marathon. It was Canada all along.

So yes — there may be bots and such, but make no mistake that the vocal opposition to Canada will only grow inside America as the trade war escalates.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Luckily, Lemmy has a fairly effective way to deal with those. Don't block them, instead use the down arrow ⬇️ so the next buddy either doesn't see it, or sees the negative score as a warning. Unlike corporate for-profit social networks, Lemmy won't push those comments to the people that would get triggered most. Instead they'll fade into oblivion as quickly as the downvotes roll in.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I’ll admit that I’m not the most patriotic American (I’m an emigrant, for one), and I’m not from a deep trump area, but I don’t know a single American, except for maybe my fox news addled dad, who doesn’t think Canada’s completely in the right. Even Vermonters who worry about heating their homes want trump to stop, not Canada.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am convinced our elections were somehow rigged here in the states. At the very least, the bots changed the outcome. But now that the shit-heels are in power, there's fuck-all that can be done about it. I've resigned myself to leave. I've been wanting to at least a decade or more, but I can't rest on my comfort anymore. It's time.

I do hope Canada can overcome this. I fear for the entire world. I am rooting for you, the EU, and general sanity worldwide.

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