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I feel that “outgroup dumb” is shitposting but it’s from a real poll.

https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/5057-understanding-how-marginal-taxes-work-its-all-part

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (12 children)

For someone outside the American tax system, can anyone put the difference in approximate numbers?

[–] quitthebiz@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago

In exact numbers, 5 cents.

[–] CluelessLemmyng@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

That one dollar in the 33% bracket has .33 in taxes instead of .28. So their obligation goes up .05 per every dollar in the 33% tax bracket.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Your local tax system probably works the same.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It boggles my mind how many people who have had to pay taxes for decades even, don't understand how tax brackets work.

The only time you'll get screwed on making more is if you were getting some sort of socialized assistance and you make a dollar over the cut off for aid.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, the Welfare Cliff is the only place where this happens and it's unconscionable.

[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is kind of by design to keep people from trying to get ahead at all

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[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

And they'll also refuse to believe you when you try to explain it to them

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 1 day ago (10 children)

I used to be a supervisor at a psych hospital and had to regularly explain this to staff who were refusing overtime. They wanted to do it, sometimes desperately so because they needed the money, but they were utterly convinced that once they crossed 40 or 45k or whatever they would be taxed higher and make it all pointless. I felt like some just didn’t want to do ot, which was fine, but some legit keep meticulous records of their earnings to ensure they wouldn’t go over the line. I swore to them it didn’t work this way but they never believed me

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (4 children)

Seen the same bullshit when I worked retail. Nothing will convince them.

It's easier to trick someone than it is to convince them they're wrong.

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[–] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Should print out a poster infographic explaining progressive taxation and put it up on the wall in the break room

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

Yeah I am pretty sure they wouldn't understand this either

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

This infographic is kinda bad and would not convince someone who doesn't know how it works at all

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Would have to be mandated by workplace regulations, no company is going to voluntarily educate their employees that more money has no downside.

I'll also say this doesn't help, it strangely avoids the actual numbers. It should state explicitly that his total taxes would be $1,600+$4,266+$2,827=$8692, and not $13200. Needs to include the scenarios specific results and contrasted with what the viewer would have assumed otherwise.

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[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (10 children)

try telling this to people who think government agencies pay taxes

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[–] Kuranashi@lemmy.world 159 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If you ever wanted proof that a population that doesn't understand math allows the billionaires to take advantage of them here it is. This is why education systems are under attack, because if you understood how taxes work you'd more likely support higher tax rates for the rich.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 146 points 1 day ago (7 children)

To be clear for those unaware, you pay the lower bracket rates for the amounts earned in that bracket and the higher bracket rates for the amounts earned above that bracket.

https://www.irs.gov/filing/federal-income-tax-rates-and-brackets

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