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I feel that “outgroup dumb” is shitposting but it’s from a real poll.

https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/5057-understanding-how-marginal-taxes-work-its-all-part

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[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Your partner is a moron who doesn't understand relatively simple math.

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Nah. He’s not an idiot. But he is impatient. He doesn’t handle paperwork or anything involving patience well. (ADHD)

I also think taxes in the US are intentionally over complicated and confusing. I don’t struggle with things like that but I can empathize with people who do.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I too have ADHD and am impatient (combined type, severe). Impatience is not an excuse for financial illiteracy. And a graduated income tax is not complicated. Deductions, credits, exceptions, etc are where it gets complicated. But if he thinks he's losing money by making more money, then he's stupid.

Reading your other responses, you're right. Not knowing something doesn't make someone stupid. Refusing to learn something when you find out you don't know it, that's what makes someone stupid. Willful ignorance is stupid.

At the very least, he should just admit he knows nothing about it and just take your word for it. Deferring to others expertise in areas you are weak is smart.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Strictly speaking the taxes in the US are not that complicated, but the credits, deductions and what not are. Still Tomato Tomato.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

have you considered asking him why he even thinks that in the first place? You've literally put him into a spot where he's too stupid to even care about whether or not that response is logical or makes sense.

If he just doesn't want to work overtime that's fine, a lot of people don't, why would he justify it with stupid tax logic that he evidently must know is stupid? Seems like cope to me.

You cannot simultaneously "be smart" and then "be stupid" you are either stupid about something, or not. It's one of the two. I'm sure he's a pretty generally smart guy, most people are, but either it's an excuse he uses because he doesnt want to work overtime, or he's literally uneducated (and therefore stupid) about taxes, and chooses not to be educated about it, even though it would be financially beneficial to him, because that's literally how money works. (which would also make him pretty objectively stupid in that case) again, he may not care at all, but then why wouldn't he just be upfront about not caring?

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

I would disagree with your premise but it’s not your fault. It’s my fault for not explaining it clearly

I don’t think not knowing something makes you stupid. Humans can’t know everything. We all have strengths and weaknesses. I know about taxes, but I don’t know shit about cooking. He cooks dinner, I deal with the bureaucracy situations.

Also, I’m don’t know if you’ve ever spent time with someone who struggles with ADHD and Neurodivergence but their brains don’t work like others. They can’t force themselves to do things that other people can tough out. They can study all night but if their brain can’t stay on track, they won’t be able to retain it.

When I come along and start telling him how tax brackets work, especially if he didn’t ask me, hes going to be frustrated and he’s not going to get through it easily.

I don’t know if he just doesn’t want to work OT and has settled on this excuse or if there is some other issue but it doesn’t matter. If he doesn’t want to work OT, that’s okay!

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s not enough information provided to reach this conclusion.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is very much enough information given to reach that conclusion.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, there is not. There are many tax credits one is no longer eligible for after a certain threshold. There are various programs one is no longer eligible for after a certain threshold.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Most of the likely credits tend to phase out gracefully. So it's true that we can't be certain, based on my experience of when people are afraid of making too much money, it's almost always because they think a higher tax bracket applies flatly across their income not due to nuanced understanding of tax credit and welfare benefits.

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This is true for many people I’ve talked to, but he does understand, on a basic level, how the brackets work. When it comes to the calculation parts, I think he gets frustrated with all the rules.

But it’s okay! I’m good at stuff like that and he can build pretty much anything. We all have our strengths. :)

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Hellllll yeahhhh!!!

Yooo is he visual?

Awww I thought for sure we were gonna have the perfect diagram thing…

Bah. So maybe there’s some YouTube video where they’re like “Bob made $50,000 last year. This year he took some extra construction shifts and made $75,000. …”

I don’t care about the partner’s weaknesses I demand clever solutions :p hehe glad everything is good!! 💙


Edit with silly riff that’s probably inaccurate:

I’m kiddddding this was just the evil thought when I first read it :p

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Actually, yeah. Something visual would probably be much better. That’s a great idea! Next time the topic comes up I’ll try that!

If he is interested in something he’ll dive in head first. He reads so much! But if he’s not interested in something…that’s another story. It’s hard for him to fake it lol

We watch a lot of mini documentary on YouTube. I can’t believe I didn’t think of that before!