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A Boring Dystopia

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I grew up listening to fundie christian parents babble at length how we were living in end times. And mocking them mercilessly (at first among my fiends, later to their faces) as often as possible.

Now look at us - on the brink of non-existence politically, environmentally, and civilizationally. Not sure that last one is a word.

If they were right I'm gonna have some 'splainin to do.

Dammit.

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[–] aramova@infosec.pub 12 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Just sayin. These fools are walking right into it.

[–] Ugurcan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

There’s a conspiracy talk in local mid-eastern/muslim bubbles that Evangelicals seizing every opportunity to team up with Zionists to bring the Rapture as soon as possible.

The talk’s been around since Ottoman times so it’s easy to dismiss, but given between apathy to Israel state’s genocide and Trump’s fast start to his secondary term gives me chills no lie.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Btw, what made you think we weren't living in the end times?

Edit: Ok i might have to do some explaining.

The way i understand it, we're living in exactly the time period (1800 - 2050?) where people basically figure out all about technology. That puts us in the very special position that we can choose what the future looks like. Such a situation has never been there before. In some sense, god lives on the inside; it's us who will permanently transform the world into its final state. That is the "second coming" and "end times".

[–] ColeD@lemm.ee 7 points 11 hours ago

Don't confuse coincidence for causation. For hundreds of years, people have been harping about the " end times." No 'splaining needed friend.

[–] segabased@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago

Self fulfilling prophecy. It's a doomsday cult and they're trying to bring the end times instead of waiting

When they said we're living in the end times it wasn't a prediction it was a threat

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Personally, if I die only to find out that the Tyrant is real, I'll gladly walk into hell before I kneel my way into heaven. Fuck their narcissistic, cruel, inhuman monster of a god.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 hours ago

I would expect in that case "hell" is just a lie anyway, like an abuser telling you you can't live without them. It's classic controlling behaviour.

Realising that helped me walk away from the whole thing: Why are we told hell exists if it isn't real? Control.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's more that it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

"The world will hate you," so you're antisocial and hateful in preparation. They do hate me! It's all true!

"There will be wars and rumors of wars," so you vote for the defense hawks supporting the military complex. So many wars! It's all true!

"They won't even tolerate your views, they'll try to outlaw it!" So you try to ban them first. It's all true!

Why protect the temporary environment when you have eternal paradise waiting? Why do ANYTHING meaningful here when you have eternal paradise waiting.

tl;dr: Death cult. Projection.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you spend your life wanting to see the end, eventually you will.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not only that, but these bad things HAVE TO HAPPEN before the good things can come to pass. That's the order of operations. Which leads to seeing the bad things and thinking, "YES!!! It's haaaappeniiiiing!!!"

You literally welcome disaster, because it proves you right, rather than working to prevent it.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

If you predict it's the end times every day for a thousand years, eventually you'll get it right.

[–] HyonoKo@lemmy.ml 1 points 23 hours ago

I love the word christofascist. I‘ll try to use it more from now on.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Christofascists are wrong because they don't recognize themselves and their cult leaders as a primary cause of doomsday, but rather they promote some poorly interpreted, wacky hallucinations from a dude in a desert 2000 years ago.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah but its all going downhill because of people like them. christians are complicit in the demise of democracy.

theyre causing their own doom so they can point it out. if they didnt exist, the world would be a better place.

theres a great meme somewhere where the rapture happens and the world is an amazingly better place for it.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

Self proclaimed "Christians" don't necessarily represent the true beliefs.

James 1:27

"Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world."

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not too late to re-evaluate your beliefs tbh. I don't subscribe to the same brand of Christianity as my parents or as what you see happening in the USA, but you can actually have Christ without a lot of that mad fundie stuff, and incorporate into a more rational belief system. I recommend checking out InspiringPhilosophy on YouTube, he has a pretty rational way of explaining the faith. Or I am not rational at all because I still believe in a "skyfairy" according to internet atheists. Just don't think that being a mad fundie is the only way to be a Christian or necessary to receive forgiveness from God.

[–] werty@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know why anyone needs forgiveness from god. Seems to me that god is the one who needs to be forgiven for creating all this suffering.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What suffering are you referring to?

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Suffering is literally everywhere, every day. People tortured, raped, beaten, killed. Disease is rampant as always. Ostensibly, Christians believe that god created everything the way he wanted. If that’s the case, he has some fucking explaining to do.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

People are tortured, raped, beaten and killed by other people. Disease is rampant in fewer places with worse medical care. Humans collectively have enough money to solve that problem but instead hoard it for themselves instead. It's us who have explaining to do to Him.

[–] TTH4P@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

America isn't the world. It's just a regime that will fall because of shortsightedness. If your Christian parents only think of the world as "America", then I don't think you owe them anything?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Very decent chance America just nukes everyone on the way out out of spite