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Qualcomm claims that my Samsung Galaxy S25 Plus' Snapdragon 8 Elite CPU is faster than the Intel Core Ultra 288V chip. My smartphone also has 12GB of RAM and 512GB of solid-state storage. In short, it's more powerful than most of my laptops. So why not use it as a laptop?

Why not, indeed, says Google, which has introduced -- at long last -- a native Linux Terminal application in its March 2025 Pixel Feature Drop.

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[–] Renohren@lemmy.today 7 points 3 hours ago

Lil Debbie works on Android phones for quite a few years now, devs didn't wait on google to chroot the hell out of android.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 8 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

This doesn't sound like proper linux to me. I want to be able to plug in a USB (or what ever the storage device would be, microUSB for phones I guess) and boot from that. Where 1 image works for any device of the same architecture. This is the main thing I dislike about ARM currently.

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago

How about multi-booting via Ventoy?

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't think anybody expected that. This is just a shitty headline.

[–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

This is just a Linux VM just like th Crostini in ChromeOS, so I'd expect similar 40%+ performance loss compares to for example proot container through Termux running natively.

The only thing this could probably offer would be giving you better OS GUI Integration into Android, like Crostini on a ChromeOS device. But if that is needed you might as well just use an Android port or an Android equivalent of your Linux software anyway, it's not like you'd ever want to run Matlab, GIMP or OpenFOAM on your Android phone with its tiny screen anyway LMAO

[–] dai@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Man I feel I'd almost wiped the debian install and added NixOS (nix package manager works fine under debian) using nixos-infect

A clean install and a night's sleep and I'll probably forget I was attempting this, but looks promising.

[–] dai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

And I'm having issues writing / completing the install to /boot

Files are written to boot by the nixos-infect script, then disappear after sometime... If the VM is shutdown / rebooted I get the previously displayed unrecoverable error screen.

Might be an easier way to achieve this.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dai@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] tinsuke@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago

Sorry Google, PostmarketOS will scratch that itch and soon enough eat your lunch: https://postmarketos.org/

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 20 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

My dream has been to have a phone that works like a phone until I get home and plug in a monitor and kbm then it's a full fledged PC. Think Dex but not shitty Samsung Android. While I'm dreaming while docked it could also utilize a desktop grade GPU.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 hour ago

May I introduce you to what already existed at one time? (Motorola Atrix 4G from 2011 with Ubuntu desktop when docked.)

[–] Webster@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Honestly the steamdeck shows we are getting close. It works like that, just in a slightly bigger form factor and without some of the phone hardware.

A little more tech advancement and I think this won't be that hard to do.

[–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago

I do this today with my Librem 5 and a 1 TB uSD

IIRC you can do exactly that with the Nintendo Switch (carry it around like a handheld until you plug it into the TV and it becomes a stationary console), though i've never had a Switch myself so i don't know for sure.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I join you on this. The closest I found is a and old surface pro with Linux and waydroid on it. It is nicer than all my previous try but far far from perfect, not even good. Just meh + +.

[–] tpyoman@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

That would be the life.

[–] slippyferret@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That headline got me really excited before I realized they meant “in an app”.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's just virtualization, the same way you would run a Debian VM under Windows or whatever.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

yeah, but being able to replace Android would have been nice.

Why would you want to not use Android? Can't you just de-google your android if that's your concern? Android is made for mobile devices.

[–] crabigno@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago

Spanish BQ manufacturer sold Ubuntu phones a while ago. I had one, and it felt great. Unfortunately the phone itself (the screen in particular) was pretty low quality, and the customer support not qualitative enough. Mine broke just by sitting in the couch with it in my pocket. That was a huge lost opportunity.

[–] dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago

there's this thing https://furilabs.com/ but not FOSS; hopefully some of their hacks can make it into mobian or sumsuch

[–] ouch@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Is there an official source for this?

The article links to this blog post, but I did not see anything relevant in it:

https://blog.google/products/pixel/pixel-drop-march-2025/

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, except google is slowly killing Termux with a thousand cuts, while they will kill this only after a few years.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Google just doesn't understand that they're killing off the only people who want to buy their shitting products. How many people use Androids? How many people use Pixels? I would feel most people want these phones because we're tech savvy people who don't want the abstracted stuff Apple sells.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 hour ago

I thought Android's market is people who don't want to pay for iOS for various reasons, mostly due to cost.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They do? Can you elaborate?

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Author faces regularly many issues when trying do make a new version of Termux to yet another set of googles demands or restrictions, sometimes unable to update play store version for years. As an (just) example, see this issue: https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/wiki/Termux-and-Android-10

[–] JRaccoon@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Tested this on my Pixel 8a. Works as you would expect. Personally I have a little hard time coming up with use cases for this but I guess it's kinda cool.

[–] American_Jesus@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Looks very similar to termux

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 7 points 23 hours ago

Probably hella nerfed in comparison.

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 6 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Why do we want this when we can already install it via Termux?

[–] Grazed@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

This is native while termux is emulated, I think.

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[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Its goog so:

  • you get Debian terminal, run whatever you want!
  • they get to track everything you do, remember your passwords for you and sell that data to everyone they can!
[–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 40 points 1 day ago

The GrapheneOS devs have been working on enabling this with all their hardening tweaks

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everything you want, except sudo! That's freaking dangerous for you!

[–] cron@feddit.org 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This incident will be reported.

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