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[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 2 points 19 minutes ago

My wife and I wondered why they just don't offer people a million per household member to leave the country. Maybe help with citizenship paperwork to other countries.

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 2 points 35 minutes ago

Doubt. If anyone is gonna profit off of his half baked idea then it'll be him, no one else

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago

Wish granted. Someone bought your citizenship. You have 30 minutes to vacate the country.

Funds unfortunately were funneled into Trump ~~slush fund~~ presidential library fund so you won't get a penny. Sorry about that

[–] yukichigai@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Ironically enough, you actually have to pay the US Government to renounce your citizenship. The base fee is $2,350, but the application process is so lengthy and complex the total cost can run up into the $20k range. Oh, and you're still obligated to pay taxes and subject to the draft.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 14 minutes ago

I think its a percent of your net worth.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 30 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

TAX & MILITARY OBLIGATIONS
Persons who wish to take the oath of renunciation under INA 349(a)(5) or who are requesting a Certificate of Loss of Nationality under INA 349(a)(1)-(4) should be aware that if the Department issues of a Certificate of Loss of Nationality in the person’s name (reflecting the official determination of loss of U.S. nationality) the former U.S. citizen’s U.S. tax or military service obligations may remain unchanged (contact the Internal Revenue Service or U.S. Selective Service for more information).

L M F A O

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 22 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure that's supposed to mean that they don't assess any new liabilities or obligations, but you can't get out of anything they've already assessed by relinquishing citizenship.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 2 points 17 minutes ago

This is exactly what it is. You don't get out of paying just by relinquishing citizenship.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, most likely. Although it does sound as if the ol' ball & chain could be attached indefinitely on first read. I imagined sliding something to that effect in a joint contract and have my ex-roommate come in to do my laundry every week after leaving according to the vague print. lol

[–] SwordInStone@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

these seem like the only good reasons

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

How long does it take to become a US citizen? That determines how often you can sell your citizenship and restart the process. Imagine getting 5 million every year or two.

[–] formulaBonk@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Naturalized citizen here originally from Poland. It took 6 years waiting to be eligible to apply for green card, another 2 to actually get a green card, then another 5 years of living in the states to be able to apply for citizenship. So total of 13 years. Granted Poland was in a different political climate 25 years ago and it was difficult to ever get into the US so it really depends on “country of origin”.

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago

If you run the citizenship cycle every 13 years, and you get paid 5 million every time, that's still about 32 k$ per month, which is not bad. It takes a very long time, but it should be worth it.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 37 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

This is unironically something I would consider. I would sell me and my family’s citizenship for 20 mil and go live either in Mexico or Spain. I have family in both of those so it would be nice to see them more often.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately we can't because we are the product. Exploitable people.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Consider? That shits a done fucking deal for me if it's on the table

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Fuck yeah. 2 million is the amount I need to live a comfortable life off the interest. 20 million gives me 800k a year in distributions to safely maintain the fund. We'd live like damn hell ass kings!

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 103 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That $5 million isn't for you

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 99 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 58 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Ok, I will pass this on to them.

Thank you. Oh, tell trump I like his... that time he was in the truck. You know, talk me up.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Tell him I'll sell mine $3m.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Fine. I'll only take $4m and I'll give you $1m. So greedy.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

...can I have $1 million?

[–] agitated_judge@sh.itjust.works 47 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Catch is "somewhere else" wants 6 million to make you a citizen.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 32 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Sweet! I'm gonna have 11 million bucks!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 11 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

I knew inflation was high but wow. The economy has really gone to shit.

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[–] NimdaQA@lemmy.world 31 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

I’d suspect the five million ain’t going to be worth much after Trump is done.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

Exchange it quick and get out.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

I would sell mine if I can get EU citizenship.

Otherwise I'd be stuck in some airport and that ain't fun

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Several EU countries feature golden visas. Portugal, Malta, for example. As long as you live there for a minimum amount of time.

https://www.goldenvisas.com/malta

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

The UK will give you free citizenship if you're considered very useful. A friend of mine is an epidemiologist, and they almost literally threw British citizenship at her. She said that nobody at the group ceremony spoke English.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Individual investors must make a minimum contribution of €600,000

Yea Imma stop you right there.

I don't even have $6000, let alone 2 extra digits.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

The joke of the post was the government paying you 5,000,000 for your U.S. citizenship. So you'd have over 4 million U.S. dollars left after doing such a trade and paying 600,000 euros for a citizenship somewhere. I forget the conversion right now. You'd still be set for life.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

It's basically 1:1 nowadays, easy to remember

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

With $5 million dollars I assume I'd be able to get a visa and then citizenship almost anywhere. Can't find a job within 90 days? Damn, maybe just start a business. What do you do? For me I'd go IT consultant company, and put my annual pay as the minimum wage required to maintain a citizenship. I could buy an office, a house, pay myself $50,000 a year for 20 years and still have 3 million left likely. Not to mention if you actually make any money. Could be anything really. Marketing, bakery, street food vendor. I'm sure you can make it work with 5m.

You can stick the 3 million in a 5% interest savings and make $150,000 a year to live off of. Living off 200k a year and never touching your principle I would hopefully be able to make work in most of the world.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I'm just some pleb with depression. No EU country would want me. The best I could hope for is maybe political asylum, but the US is still considered a democracy so they aren't gonna take my application seriously.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Tree fitty? Damn you Loch Ness monster!

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 12 minutes ago

I gave him a dolla

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 14 points 15 hours ago

I don’t think he has that authority, but he’d do it anyway. Except he wouldn’t, because fuck you.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 11 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

If this was plausible, you would never receive real money, and likely a dogshit Trump crypto coin that no rational ledger or bank would honor.

They would pay you "$5 million" Trump-Bucks and in reality it would be worth a pathetically impossibly impotent microscopic amount of real legal tender.

And then they would tell you to fuck off in the most publicly rude method possible to dog whistle to their racist bigoted MAGA base.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

About 1000 Stanley nickels, according to my math.

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