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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

The Ratchet effect.

With this current trump slop, the democrats can shift farther right than they've ever been and gain tons of moderates and even conservatives who just feel sour on trump, and obviously they get the liberal moderates, because trump slop.

Republicans shift right by 10, dems shift right by 6 and seem progressive in comparison.

Billionaires continue getting richer, and we all get fucked. Eat, sleep, repeat.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Obama's legacy:

Biden's legacy:

The democrats are a brutal, vicious, genocidal party.

So, going through that website almost every time I tried to look at the source it said 404 file missing.

Also, what's up with the color scheme? If the information is damning enough already, stop with all the theatrics.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 58 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (11 children)

This meme made sense in 2012, not when the Republican Party has decided to be the Anti-Democratic Party.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 10 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

If anything Democrats have moved further to the right recently

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[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 64 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'd take some less evil, please.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Sorry. The Democrats sued less evil off the ballot.

[–] Sibshops@lemm.ee 25 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

I don't understand why people who think this don't advocate for ranked choice voting. Seems like it would solve this issue, right?

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

They won't allow it because they'll lose power with ranked choice.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

It doesn't. There are plenty of bourgeois democracies that don't use FPTP for all their voting: Japan, Australia, South Korea for some of their elections. Doesn't make a difference (except it might make the bribery a bit more expensive, since you have to buy off more political parties than just two).

The fundamental problem is capital standing above political power. If it does so, then no amount of alternative voting systems can fix the issue. Socialism is the only answer.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 0 points 3 hours ago

I do advocate for it, I'm a proud member of the Forward Party.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

No, RCV wouldn't. The fundamental problem of electoral politics being a game between factions pre-approved by the bourgeoisie won't change, there are even safeguards preventing unwanted change that losing parties and government branches can pull in the rare event a worker party won.

It's the perfect carrot, it won't get passed nor would it change much.

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 26 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Even if it would, how would it ever get passed when the people who would need to pass it are the ones who are only in office because the system works the way it currently does?

This is just a recurring theme I've found when talking with liberals. They like to think about and suggest all sorts of policy ideas as though all we're missing are some smart ideas nobody has thought of. It's one thing to say we should have this, but it's another to have any idea of how it'd be possible to do. Since they have no actual analysis of the system, they'll just turn around and tell you to vote or call your representative. "We should get money out of politics!" "Yeah, well we checked with the people giving us money and they said no. So..."

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 17 points 17 hours ago
[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You have a few options for enacting ranked choice voting at the national level:

  1. Win hundreds, possibly thousands, of state-level House and Senate seats with the largest grass roots voter mobilization ever seen in the US to, a) enact legislation in all 50 states or b) ratify an amendment to the constitution, that mandates it.

  2. Kill enough republicans in a national civil war to make sure that when elections happen, there aren't enough republicans left to win an election, then enact the above.

  3. Overthrow the entire US government in a much bloodier national coup and set up whatever government you want.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 22 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Kill enough republicans in a national civil war

And democrats, too. Don't pretend they're not just as responsible for keeping fptp voting, their party depends on it. If you don't believe me, look into how coordinated the GOP and Democrats were when suing PSL and the Green party to keep them off several state ballots (and severely whittle down their grassroots funds with corporate-money lawfare). Spoiler: there was no overlap.

It's one party, two wings.

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