Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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They've released an update, and I'm just generally confused: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-terms-of-use/
I fully believe that they didn't intend for it to sound so... all encompassing, but this update makes me even more confused. What data is "uploaded" to firefox? I just thought Firefox was the browser, not some website. Do they mean the services Mozilla offers?
This doesn't make any sense to me either. Why do they need a license for what you type into Firefox if that data never gets shared with Mozilla?
I don't know a single application that you need to give a license to so they can handle your data locally.
Exactly.
We’ve seen a little confusion about the language
Tastes like "I'm sorry you feel that way"
The privacy notice document lists how each data type is used. It includes in-browser ads on the new tab page, AI chatbots, and "to market our services".
I'm glad I use a fork, even if it much more unstable. Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.
Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.
Maybe that's why Mozilla quit contributing to it.
Igalia is currently working hard on making it easy to use Servo as an embeddable browser engine similar to how Chromium can be used.
The problems of doing that with Gecko, the browser engine that powers Firefox, is main reason why there are so few alternative browsers based on it.
Well there's already a browser on the works, verso, and it also attempts to make servo "embeddable":
We aim to explore embedding solutions for Servo
Hopefully both project reach 1.0 sooner rather than later. Meanwhile there's Librewolf at least, and there was Mull, but instead currently there's IronFox and also FrozenFennec on the works as well, all forks of Firefox oriented to privacy.
Or why do they have a world wide right for anything entered into Firefox.
This seems like a great time to install LibreWolf.
Yes, but even more important to avoid sync with an Mozilla account, if you need the sync function (maybe Filen?) (Vivaldi has an own sync EE2E)
I just switched to Bitwarden for passwords
That's the best free option, and possibly best option overall. I've been with them for about five years now and it's been great.
Why why why don't they just do like Wikipedia or the Internet Archive does and just come out and ask for donations instead of trying to sneak all this advertising shit into things?
EDIT: Another idea, which I'm sure they'll never consider, is to host actual @thunderbird.net email addresses which could be paid for. People at this very minute are looking for Proton Mail replacements, and this could be one of them . . .
I personally wouldn't trust them with an email service myself. They have been known to accept sponsorships through Google and as of late seems to be heading more and more in the direction of more tracking services in favor of a monetary profit. I don't trust their email service would be any different
I’m switching to Librewolf. I don’t want ads in my browser.
I wonder how they can expect to get more users like that. Their user are privacy conscious, this is the move to lose them. I am thinking about using tor browser on android. I don't see any other alternative.
Check out Fenec
i dont know on how many of my accounts back then on reddit were banned for pointing out the moz board is just trash. more than 10 i am sure. again and again people dont want to hear they are wrong. still cant tell people THEY are the problem when using apple or google accounts, but those digital imbeciles tell me about the dangers of deepseek.thankfully in a globalised world natural selection is back on the map and not adapting to modern society puts you in place. so everyone can stick to their wrong beliefs and not vax, have accounts with google or even vote trump...be as dumb as you want...keep telling yourself mozilla is "the good guys"... iphones are secure and manufactured without slave labour.
It's frustrating that the last bastion of hope against total Google dominance of the browser market has no sense of direction at all and is constantly tripping over rakes.
Personally, i still belive in not giving Google market dominance but that's mainly because I want the web to thrive, and competition breeds innovation.
With that said, these ToS are making me leave FF, although I am going to Librefox and Fenec now
I know, I have stopped using Google many years ago, when it forgot his "Don't Be Evil." Since then I have used a huge amount of different browsers in Windows and Linux, to stay 9 years ago with Vivaldi, why, apart was the one that offered the most, I was also impressed by the ethics and respect for the user, which is a European cooperative, owned by its employees, actively fighting for a freer and more private Internet, not dominated by large corporations, against the practices of Surveillance Advertising (initiative where organizations of consumers and companies such as DDG and others participated and where Mozilla shine for his absence). But yes, as you say, it's hard to change believes, even if you prove that they are wrong.
And Firefox is no longer my browser. Tada.
do you mean you use a more privacy oriented fork like Librewolf, or instead some chrome/chromium derivative or fork?
What's the best alternative? This doesn't sound great.....
anyone up to date on how servo has been doing?
https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox
i can suggest ironfox, the fork of mull for android
Why don't they use the official fdroid repo?