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[–] throwback3090@lemmy.nz -1 points 27 minutes ago

Some random asshole on the internet had a similar challenge when it came to not generalizing 300,000,000 people and sadly failed their challenge :'(

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 hours ago

The only wrong part of this meme is the implication that burgers would even try to not blame foreign meddling.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

No you don't understand, it wasn't 80 years of fascist power consolidation and continual capitalist cannibalization since the 70s, It is all Putin manipulating social media causing the material conditions in the Global North. One thing is for sure, no one wrote a book in the nineteenth century describing this exactly.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

You don't understand, the U.S. was sold to Russia in 2016, then it was reclaimed and thanklessly saved by our harm-reduction, lesser-evilism enjoyer (very wholesome), then it was hopelessly sold back again to Russia just recently..

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

It's also a problem in europe

Edit: people blaming immigrants, that is, not immigration itself

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 hours ago

and blaming communism, despite the fact that there's no communism to be found in Europe

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 9 hours ago

It's not like Musk was elected.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 13 points 14 hours ago

They don't even try.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago

Mfw the country is founded by foreigners who didn’t like the other foreigners

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 11 points 18 hours ago

Capitalism and First-past-the-post voting.

Capitalists hate competition.

[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Elon Musk is a foreigner that is directly causing our current problems.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 24 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The US has been the most evil country on earth long before musk arrived.

[–] GFGJewbacca@lemm.ee 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I would argue that the British Empire and Belgium were pretty fucking evil long before the US came into existence.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

After WW2 most of the worlds imperialism, death and destruction and theft has shifted. The main perpetrator went from being Europe to the US. With Europe remaining complicit of course.

[–] GFGJewbacca@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago

That's a fair point. The US empire expanded tremendously after all the war profiteering from WW2, which allowed for the evil that we see today.

[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

No argument there.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Elon Musk is a foreigner

No, he's an American citizen. Or are American liberals full 'blood and soil' now?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Rightwingers don't usually care about whether immigrants have citizenship or not.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, including right wing blueMAGA liberals

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 6 points 17 hours ago

Wym "now"? Lmao

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 20 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 2 points 6 hours ago

Thanks Obama

[–] dan69@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

I frequent the “…thanks a lot Obama.”

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago

One in particular from. South Africa

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s those fucking illegals who came over on the mayflower that caused this

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

had the native american's been smart enough to build a wall across the ocean... none of this mess would have happened.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 3 points 23 hours ago

Powhatan should have 💀 them as they came ashore. That’s one thing I would fix with a time machine.

[–] JVT038@feddit.nl 20 points 23 hours ago

Lots of populist European parties are doing the same and are actually gaining votes by blaming everything on the immigrants.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’ll start. Go home white people! Go back to where you came from!

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I'd love to live in Denmark, that's where most of my heritage comes from.

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm Danish, follow your heritage and come back, it's pretty great here

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Serious question - what is the official position of older motorcycles in the country? Because I absolutely love my 1980 Honda XR500...

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 3 points 20 hours ago

Maybe I should go to Poland. That's the largest contiguous plurality of my background...

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 6 points 23 hours ago

I second this ~a 13th great grandchild of Powhatan.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 23 hours ago

This reminded me of that one nando's ad

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not necessarily foreigners, but rather billionaires that are the problem. They bought off and corrupted government officials long ago, and directed them to perform heinous acts to line their pockets further. The rich have got to be stopped in order for things to get better. I’d prefer to simply tax them out of existence, but there are other means available…

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The US was founded on slavery and genocide / conquest of hundreds of indigenous nations. It's rotten to the core.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 8 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, and many of those founders were rich businessmen who didn’t want to pay taxes to the king of England. This is a human problem, not a national one.

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, and many of those founders were rich businessmen who didn’t want to pay taxes to the king of England.

They were pissy that the king made it illegal to expand westward and exterminate all of the indigenous people. They were all "no, actually, the British Empire isn't evil enough. Let's make an even bigger and eviller empire than the [at the time] most evil empire on Earth."

This is a human problem, not a national one.

It is a national and class problem, not a human one. Human nature is a bs concept invented to sell the status quo.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

George washington, franklin, jefferson, madison, all the founders were slave-owning colonizers who explicitly modelled their country after ancient Rome.

It's not a human problem, these were specifically evil people who did not share the same values as the people they murdered and enslaved.

Most countries were not founded in this way.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not like most european countries are in a good position to justifiably point fingers here ...

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The author Domenico Losurdo uses the term mutual demystification a lot, especially in Liberalism - a counter history. When two parties accuse each other of being hypocrites, it often ends up showing that they both are.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd like to point out that I'm european, not american - this is the opposite of calling each other hypocrites.

[–] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

When people are not brain dead by media, both in the US and EU we know all of our problems comes from our own government and fat CEOs.

Foreigners are just one of the many scapegoats they put the blame on.

What it reminds me of is Greeks and then Romans calling them barbarian, from barbar meaning foreigners. This isn't new...

The problem always was power and the unfit nature of human beings to possess it.

[–] dawnglider@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't expect anyone to deny the existence of corruption or abuse of power, but I think the corrupting influence of power is often used to justify in retrospect the acts of people put into power to do exactly that. It might sound pedantic to say that CEOs or state officials aren't really "corrupt", because they rarely ever intend to represent the interests of the workforce or population, but really it's a total inversion of causality. They don't "betray" because they got in power, they got in power to "betray".

On an interesting sidenote, it also goes against the common misconception that any form of authority ultimately leads to corruption, since those same CEOs and officials seem to stay pretty loyal.

[–] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

Exact, and I believe most forms of power incentives bad actions and the worse individual to take it.

Wich would entail it comes from our nature, dictating the properties of power.

Good actions done by CEOs or the ones being loyal seems to me is coming from another facet of us.

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