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[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago)

No you don't understand, it wasn't 80 years of fascist power consolidation and continual capitalist cannibalization since the 70s, It is all Putin manipulating social media causing the material conditions in the Global North. One thing is for sure, no one wrote a book in the nineteenth century describing this exactly.

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It's also a problem in europe

Edit: people blaming immigrants, that is, not immigration itself

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 3 hours ago

It's not like Musk was elected.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 hours ago

They don't even try.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 hours ago

Capitalism and First-past-the-post voting.

Capitalists hate competition.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago

Mfw the country is founded by foreigners who didn’t like the other foreigners

[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 45 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Elon Musk is a foreigner that is directly causing our current problems.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 22 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The US has been the most evil country on earth long before musk arrived.

[–] GFGJewbacca@lemm.ee 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I would argue that the British Empire and Belgium were pretty fucking evil long before the US came into existence.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

After WW2 most of the worlds imperialism, death and destruction and theft has shifted. The main perpetrator went from being Europe to the US. With Europe remaining complicit of course.

[–] GFGJewbacca@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

That's a fair point. The US empire expanded tremendously after all the war profiteering from WW2, which allowed for the evil that we see today.

[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago

No argument there.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Elon Musk is a foreigner

No, he's an American citizen. Or are American liberals full 'blood and soil' now?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Rightwingers don't usually care about whether immigrants have citizenship or not.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, including right wing blueMAGA liberals

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 hours ago

Wym "now"? Lmao

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 19 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 1 points 6 minutes ago

Thanks Obama

[–] dan69@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

I frequent the “…thanks a lot Obama.”

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago

One in particular from. South Africa

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It’s those fucking illegals who came over on the mayflower that caused this

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

had the native american's been smart enough to build a wall across the ocean... none of this mess would have happened.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 3 points 17 hours ago

Powhatan should have 💀 them as they came ashore. That’s one thing I would fix with a time machine.

[–] JVT038@feddit.nl 17 points 17 hours ago

Lots of populist European parties are doing the same and are actually gaining votes by blaming everything on the immigrants.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not necessarily foreigners, but rather billionaires that are the problem. They bought off and corrupted government officials long ago, and directed them to perform heinous acts to line their pockets further. The rich have got to be stopped in order for things to get better. I’d prefer to simply tax them out of existence, but there are other means available…

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The US was founded on slavery and genocide / conquest of hundreds of indigenous nations. It's rotten to the core.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 7 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, and many of those founders were rich businessmen who didn’t want to pay taxes to the king of England. This is a human problem, not a national one.

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, and many of those founders were rich businessmen who didn’t want to pay taxes to the king of England.

They were pissy that the king made it illegal to expand westward and exterminate all of the indigenous people. They were all "no, actually, the British Empire isn't evil enough. Let's make an even bigger and eviller empire than the [at the time] most evil empire on Earth."

This is a human problem, not a national one.

It is a national and class problem, not a human one. Human nature is a bs concept invented to sell the status quo.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

George washington, franklin, jefferson, madison, all the founders were slave-owning colonizers who explicitly modelled their country after ancient Rome.

It's not a human problem, these were specifically evil people who did not share the same values as the people they murdered and enslaved.

Most countries were not founded in this way.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 15 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I’ll start. Go home white people! Go back to where you came from!

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 7 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I'd love to live in Denmark, that's where most of my heritage comes from.

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm Danish, follow your heritage and come back, it's pretty great here

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago

Maybe I should go to Poland. That's the largest contiguous plurality of my background...

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 6 points 17 hours ago

I second this ~a 13th great grandchild of Powhatan.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 16 hours ago

This reminded me of that one nando's ad

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's not like most european countries are in a good position to justifiably point fingers here ...

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

The author Domenico Losurdo uses the term mutual demystification a lot, especially in Liberalism - a counter history. When two parties accuse each other of being hypocrites, it often ends up showing that they both are.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'd like to point out that I'm european, not american - this is the opposite of calling each other hypocrites.

[–] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

When people are not brain dead by media, both in the US and EU we know all of our problems comes from our own government and fat CEOs.

Foreigners are just one of the many scapegoats they put the blame on.

What it reminds me of is Greeks and then Romans calling them barbarian, from barbar meaning foreigners. This isn't new...

The problem always was power and the unfit nature of human beings to possess it.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Republicans do, but they blame them on the wrong foreigners. The foreigners causing most of the problems are Musk, Murdoch, Ramaswami, and a few others.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Republicans do

Democrats frequently blame all of the USs problems on Russians.

Musk, Murdoch, Ramaswami

All three are literally US citizens, and Ramaswamy was literally born in Ohio.

I see that American liberals are white nationalists now.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 4 points 16 hours ago

I’m not a liberal. I just call the rot where I see it, and suggest it be cut out. Where’s Mario’s brother when you need him?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

And here you are living the meme.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago

Unfortunately. I’d love nothing more than to be able to move my family out of the US.

[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago

Swing and a miss.