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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

Cancun Texas! Have you guys been? Its beautiful! Just a short flight across the golf of America and located in southflorida...Flucatan.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

Next president, assuming there is one, will just change it back to repair relations with our allies.

Even if it never gets changed back, it'll be a generation before people actually start calling it that. No one alive now is going to give a fuck about the Gulf of America or call it that.

Hey conservatives, not that you're intelligent enough to figure out how to get on Lemmy, but if by some miracle one of you reads this, why is Trump doing this and floating invading our allies and annexing their territories instead of lowering the price of groceries as promised on day 1?

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Google can officially gargle deez nutz

[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 26 points 4 hours ago

This whole thing is extremely cringe. There isn’t any other way to put it. Trump. His executive order. The compliance. It’s all cringe.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 14 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Interesting discussion about this on the OpenStreetMap forums.

The resolution is introducing "official_name" tags, referencing "en_us", because "en" is not just the U.S.:

https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571/11

So when OsmAnd or OrganicMaps start to support them, maybe your locale settings will change the displayed name there as well.

Current description of that node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305639190/history/80

So maybe that could be a reason for everyone around the world to stop using en_US locale settings. XD

[–] mRbLUE@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Would be shame if google are snowed under with reports the name is wrong :-)

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

Just tried: the 'report an issue'/'suggest an edit' button doesn't appear when The Gulf of Mexico is selected.

It does for other locations, but not for the Gulf.

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 4 points 3 hours ago

Genuinely curious... How does Google handle other oceanic naming that isn't agreed upon Worldwide?

Google Maps view of the Southern Ocean around Antarctica

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 34 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Time for a repeat comment: Organic Maps does everything Google Maps does (except traffic conditions), and is FOSS. Please encourage places to contribute business information to Open Street Maps.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I'm all for swapping apps, but Organic Maps doesn't even have my home address. And I live in a major metropolitan area.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

My test search for the UPS store up the street sent me 4km away. So...not great.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

That solves the problem this time, but it doesn't help if I'm trying to navigate somewhere new.

If it doesn't have the address for a 30-year-old house in a major metropolitan area, then I just don't think it's a viable replacement for Google Maps, unfortunately.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Every time I try to navigate to an address that's missing in OSM, I just navigate to the nearest one instead. It's not a big deal.
And when I have 5 minutes of free time, I add the address.

That's how OSM works. There isn't a dev or company to blame, you can literally fix the missing data yourself. And that's the only way it works.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I wish OSM had the resources to make something akin to Pokemon Go but instead of capturing something, it adds it to the database.

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You are in luck my friend: https://streetcomplete.app/

They have made it super easy and fun. I have been playing it for nearly a year and have made a pretty big dent in my local dense metro area.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

I use Google maps mostly to find out where things are, and unfortunately OSM does not have as many places as Google Maps. I can add one or two places I notice are missing (even though the phone interface isn't that easy) but Google Maps consistently has better information, so I mostly use organic maps for when I already know the address or already know the location is in its database.

[–] TimboSlice@discuss.online 4 points 7 hours ago

Just swapped apps. Thanks for the suggestion!

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 5 hours ago

bing still shows correctly for me.

[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 22 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Also, report an error to google maps:

It reads: I read "Gulf of America". That must be a mistake.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

I can't seem to do this from the phone app

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Obviously that's not going to make one iota of difference. They're an American company and they have been ordered by the president of the country to do this. They already do similar things in other authoritarian countries like China and Turkey, because anything else would risk the safety of Google employees.

If you don't like it, change to a non-American product and/or vote for a different president.

[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 2 points 3 hours ago

I somehow have a feeling that being president of the USA does not mean you can do whatever you want and people have to follow... Google Map, for one, is a product of a private company, not a Federal Service of the USA - so if they want to call it "Gulf of Google", they could!
Then you're right, they already protect/black out places and some places' names, however the Gulf of America, like the Channel of Washington are just bs that in the worst case scenario will live 4 years. So it's a joke and I like joking too

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The American president can only order so much. As of yesterday, the BGN has changed the name, but this affects Federal Government usage. Google as a private company could continue to use the common name if they wanted to.

This is why Open Street Maps has a "name" field and "official name" field, for where these two aren't the same. This is already the case for the English names "Saigon" and "Ho Chi Minh City" which refer to the same place in Vietnam.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Well, that's apparently for the courts to decide. In the meantime they have an executive order to contend with. Google has reclassified the U.S. as a "sensitive country" along with other authoritarian regimes and I'm convinced that this is partly out of concern for the safety of Google employees. Who knows what maga cultists might do if they don't comply.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Personally I think that obeying in advance only makes it a riskier place for the employees, but it is not my decision to make.

Regardless, I don't see what issue the courts would have with a private company using the common name of a geographical feature instead of the official government name. That would be a violation of the 1st amendment protection of free speech from government intervention.

[–] mrmule@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm currently in France, this is what I see on Google maps Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)

What a f*cking joke 😂

Maps.me shows the real name

As does mappy.cz

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

I'm in Canada, and Google maps shows me the same as what you are seeing.

[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 8 points 9 hours ago

UNITED STATES OF NORTH MEXICO
I'm gonna start creating new pubs, bars and so on, everywhere I go, and call them Trump's Mexican Deli, Donnie & Elon's vacancy hotel, and so on. Please contribute (use an alternative google account)

[–] afronaut@lemmy.cafe 11 points 9 hours ago

I’m in the process of migrating my saved locations and addresses to Organic Maps. Bye Google.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 hours ago

Cool.

In not at all related news disabling Google maps on your Android device can often be a source of delight! I never knew how capable organic maps was and it has a very nice auto integration.

[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 62 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

That's a weird flex by South Canada.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 47 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Bingo.

Imagine getting every "alpha male" 2A nutjob violent conservative to realize who their actual enemy is.

We'd get some actual positive change in an extremely short period of time.

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