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The European Comission has granted €20 million to STEP, the European consortium that will create the AI model. It will be open source, European regulations-compliant and unlike Deepseek, its dataset will also be open source and will be trained in 35 languages.

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[–] remon@ani.social 4 points 1 hour ago

Well, investing a mere €20 millions won't achieve much. On the other hand I'm glad they aren't wasting more money on it.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago

Hey! Look at me! I also want to be a dumpster fire.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 10 points 2 hours ago (3 children)
[–] guaraguaito@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

To be fair — I wouldn’t mind an open source AI model that works decently well and isn’t made and selectively propagandised by China or Meta.

Obviously I’m sick of all the LLM enshittification — but there’s a couple tasks I wouldn’t mind having a FOSS LLM for.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 2 points 50 minutes ago

I could get down with that.

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 5 points 1 hour ago
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 hour ago

I mean a whole lot of people are using AI for a whole lot of different things. It's easy to hate on, but it's here to stay.

[–] bruce965@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

I am conflicted about this choice. I am happy that the EU Commission will invest funds into open source technologies, but at the same time the US and China are already investing enough into "free as in free beer" models. Is it really worth it building yet another model?

Why not fund open source software development instead of funding machine learning? €20 million would do miracles divided between a few teams of developers, but they might merely be bread crumbs for machine learning training.

[–] Anyone@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Is it really worth it building yet another model?

Yes, it is, and it has to do with independence and many other reasons. It'll be multilingual, legally compliant, it comes without Chinese nor other censorship, it is open source unlike Deepseek, ChatGPT, and others.

[–] bruce965@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Mmh, okay that makes sense. Especially the multilinguality would be pretty important. As for the legality, we'll see how it goes. Do we even know if it's really possible to build a good model with only legally acquired data?

As for the censorship, as far as I know, for DeepSeek's models it's injected in the prompt after the training is completed, so it shouldn't really be censored if you run it locally.

But yeah, you have raised good points. Thanks.

[–] Anyone@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, DeepSeek isn’t uncensored if you run it locally.

Everything that comes from China is censored, because private companies must apply to the Chinese censorship laws.

[–] bruce965@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

Understood, thanks 👍

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 4 points 1 hour ago

That money should definitely go towards funding sovereign cloud infrastructure and open source software instead of vaporware AI bullshit. Where will you run your LLMs if you have no infra..

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago