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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/25117460

Summary

Elon Musk claimed on X that he eliminated the IRS team responsible for the "Direct File" program, which allows Americans to file taxes online for free.

His statement came in response to a right-wing influencer criticizing the program as government overreach.

However, the Treasury Department confirms that the Direct File system remains active, offering free tax filing with customer support.

The program, available in English and Spanish, is optional, allowing taxpayers to choose between using it or filing their taxes manually.

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 74 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

You'd think that if DOGE was really DOGE that this is the exact kind of thing they'd double down on and make really good, saving everyone shit load of money.

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 34 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

You'd think that's the case, if you thought saving money or helping average Americans was actually their goal. The American government is being carved up as fast as they can get away with it. Gotta free up cash to give billionaires more tax cuts!

[–] Rajtinka@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget... Eliminating any government oversight that might affect their business interests...

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

And eliminating any funding they can for media that will speak against them.

Edit: these people are directly tanking the platform Mr. Rogers had. The magic school bus, sesame Street, Arthur, Clifford, Barney, Reading Rainbow... They come from PBS, which is under attack by Elon Musk and Donald Trump

I get advertisements trying to give free pamphlets to kids about what Trump has done for our country and how he is saving it. He's looking for the fucking Hitler Youth. Period

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago

Oh, you see, you fucked up like... three words into your comment

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 83 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The sooner average Americans realize that these people are America's enemies, the sooner we can do something about it.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago

So you are saying we better not wait standing up?

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 100 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (8 children)

How the hell does this lower costs?

right-wing influencer criticizing the program as government overreach.

So the right is against self-service now? wtf

[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

It's just a poorly constructed lie to funnel more money to their corporate masters.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 78 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

This version of the right wing is against any service provided to the public for free which their own companies could profit from by charging for it. And they also, as a matter of principle, believe that the poor should be punished, and punished again.

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 25 points 16 hours ago

So the right is against self-service now? wtf

You may want to look into Grover Norquist and his organisation Americans for Tax Reform. It is one of the most influential political lobbying groups in the United States, and it has the support of essentially the entire republican party. They essentially consider tax to be evil on principle and ask every politician to sign a pledge opposing any tax hike.

ATR is strongly against automatic filing, as they want to keep taxes difficult and complicated to stoke anti-tax sentiment. That is to say, they fear that if filing tax is easier, citizens would be less likely to fight taxes in the way that the ATR wants (mostly they like a low flat tax, because it's simple and good for rich people).

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 10 points 15 hours ago

They're against the slaves not using TurboTax.

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[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 238 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

I think I'll skip paying taxes this year, my religion states I cannot support terrorist groups.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 45 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (5 children)

Good luck with that.

But, in all seriousness: Everyone should do their taxes ASAP. If you are due a refund? File very quickly. If you owe money? Wait until the last possible minute. Because there are decent odds that we don't have an IRS after a month or two of this...


That said, DO make it a point to file state taxes regardless since those actually go toward things that, even in red states, are focused on the populace.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago (10 children)

To late he just got rid of what takes to do our fucking taxes. I REFUSE TO USE TURBOTAX OR HR BLOCK OR ANY OTHER PREDATORY TAX FILING COMPANY.

Guess no refund for us and no child tax credit.

Btw what the fuck is Congress doing? This motherfucker should not be able to do any of this, yet no one stopping him.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 20 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You do you. Personally, I want to get my money while I still can. But if you would rather throw away you and your children's money then ... 'kay.

Because there are basically 3 outcomes for the IRS at this point

  1. musk et al completely destroy it and insist that income tax is no longer a thing and only sales tax exists. I forget if this is part of project 2025 but it is something republicans have been arguing for decades because it predominantly hurts lower income households
  2. Democrats do their fucking job and intervene and we file taxes normally
  3. musk et al completely compromise the IRS and make it a point to attack "the little guy" so they can insist they are hard on crime while actively ignoring all their cronies who refuse to ever pay taxes again.

And if you truly refuse to use any software? You can file by hand. I did back in college when I couldn't afford even fricking turbotax.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Democrats cannot fix this. Perhaps you lived under a rock, but they lost power in all branches of government. Further, whether the actions by Musk violate the constitution is up for review by the courts, not congress. Remember who is in charge there? People warned that electing Trump would end Democracy, but I guess they were just scaremongering.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Isn't freetaxusa still good?

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Has for 2 years so far.

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[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 11 hours ago

You probably already pay taxes. Filing your taxes usually just helps dial in if you paid a bit too much or too little.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 159 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

His statement came in response to a right-wing influencer criticizing the program as government overreach.

... HOW????? This movement simply has no real agenda or philosophy - they just want to burn everything down.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 96 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

This movement simply has no real agenda or philosophy - they just want to burn everything down.

That is the agenda

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 19 points 16 hours ago

The government providing a free service that private companies charge for is considered overreach by the wealthy elite who stand to gain from holding a monopoly over access to a necessary thing.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Disclaimer: I don't agree with this but providing a possible rationale. They believe the government is overreaching because "easy" tax filing has been privatized and it would harm those businesses. Never mind those businesses harm people

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

They literally ran on dismantling our government and the majority of voting Americans voted for them.

For the first time in my life I'm seriously considering getting citizenship elsewhere. Nothing good can happen for the future of this nation with a populace that stupid.

It's over.

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 74 points 19 hours ago

Cruelty is the point. The goal is to make the lives of impoverished people harder.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 12 points 14 hours ago

"Elon Musk claimed on X that he eliminated the IRS team responsible for the "Direct File" program, which allows Americans to file taxes online for free"

"However, the Treasury Department confirms that the Direct File system remains active, offering free tax filing with customer support"

Big story. Is every tweet going to be a shocking story? Isn't that beneficial to the media who done nothing / helped install theese morons?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 65 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (12 children)

In Denmark We've had easy tax filing on the Internet for more than a decade, and before that it was also extremely easy, as we got a form with all the usual data filled out, and we only had to send in if we had changes. I haven't done my taxes for 30 years!!!
Except when we bought a house we've had a few tax deductions on energy saving changes, which took 2 minutes to enter.

Every piece of standard information is collected automatically, like wages, bank info, stock profits, real estate taxes, and the rest if you have anything additional is super easy to fill out. The old paper tax return form is AFAIK completely abandoned since more than a decade ago.

USA under Trump with Elron Musk making it even worse is what we would call working like monkeys in a cage. If they really end this program, it makes it more difficult to do your taxes, AND cost tax payers MORE!!

[–] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 58 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

Thanks, we know the rest of the modern world has it better in literally every way literally everywhere else. Can someone just like invade and save us please?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 44 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

Unfortunately USA is extremely good at violence, probably the best in the world, so I guess you'll just have to fight it out amongst yourselves. But I wish all the best to all the reasonable Americans, that still believe in decency and democracy.

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[–] hulfpa@lemmy.ml 53 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Man who pays someone else to do his taxes makes it harder for people who do their own taxes because he doesn't seem to understand how annoying and frustratingly difficult it is to file in USA

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 41 points 20 hours ago

He understands. His cronies make big bank from paid services.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 13 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

He thinks people with less money than him are inferior people, morally, intellectually and socially. If there's anything he's unaware of it's what a pathetic little man he is, and how billions of dollars can't fix that. But deep down I suspect he knows it.

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[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 48 points 20 hours ago

Nothing makes the government more efficient than cleaning house on the group responsible for bringing money into the government and which has an ROI of 5.

[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 18 hours ago

Oh man.

In Germany this would mean dismantling the only functioning digital government service. Haha.

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