If you see something like this and get angry at women, you have a problem.
At best it's a problem with reading comprehension. At worst, you're worried that things like this could get in the way of your murdering-women hobby.
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Yup, and as a guy, I am not going home with two women that approach me in a bar after I flash some cash. Know your attackers and keep safe from them.
Also dress modestly to make sure you don't provoke men with your body.
Go away.
The first part is clearly a joke. I hate that I need to clarify this but you never know with the amount of sexist idiots in this thread
Random woman: I like late night walks, but I'm scared for my safety.
This thread for some reason: YOU DON'T THINK MEN GET SCARED? MURDERED!?
Like, chill. Yes, men can absolutely be murdered/hurt walking alone. But are we really going to sit here and act like women are making up their concerns/grievances out of spite? For some reason, if anyone mentions a general concern/issue related to women's experiences with men, some people trip over themselves to say how it's actually not an issue and how it's actually so much worse for men. If I'm listening to a male DV victim and I go, "well, actually, women are more likely to be victims of DV. You know, it's actually not even an issue for you. Here, look at these numbers that prove that women are the victims. Do you not mention it because you hate women? Why are you trying to ruin our spotless reputation as delicate flowers that can do no wrong with your lies", you would think I was nuts, and for good reason.
Also men in this thread: THIS IS LITERALLY EXACTLY LIKE RACISM
Are you surprised that a generalising statement evokes emotional responses?
I'm surprised it evokes this level of defensiveness. Isn't man-on-man crime a problem too? Nothing about the post says men can't be victims too.
You are 10x more likely to die by falling, car crash or unintentionally poisoned than get murdered.
You are 20x more likely to die by falling, car crash, or unintentionally poisoned than get murdered, as a woman.
Women are actually much less likely to get murdered in general.
Stop villainizing men. This is equally as idiotic as villainizing POC because they have higher crime rates Dont sink to the level of the GOP by generalizing. The unfair alienation of young men is real, and ultimately cost us the election, just so we can feel better than them.
You to the woman taking a cab home after a night at the club: "Ma'am, don't you know you're 20x more likely to die by falling, car crash, or unintentional poisoning than being murdered? Why don't you walk home alone instead of taking the cab?"
"She just got raped, beaten and robbed, that totally isn't a murder! Women are safer than men!" sheesh, talk about not making a point....
I find these numbers intriguing. Where did you get them from?
From his imagination.
Sure, men are getting killed. But they are not getting killed because of their gender, while women on the other hand are often killed exactly because they are women.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femicide
So, a woman going out alone in the dark is always at risk of being raped, killed or violated in other ways.
Well I imagine that men get killed more in general. The dude might have a point there. It's just speculation with no fact the way he wrote it.
But if he is right it would make more sense to get some stats on how many men vs women get attacked, stalked, followed, cat called, etc going about their business at night. My imagination is that those numbers are very different and that they - together with the fact that most women are way weaker than most men - would have a reason to be more afraid.
"more men get murdered" isn't relevant though. Hypothetically, if predominantly men murder lots of men and women equally, a woman would be right to be worried about getting murdered by a man.
Unintentional deaths https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm
Homicide statistics https://www.statista.com/statistics/1388777/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-gender/
I dont understand why people are so offended by my comment. Why blame a whole demographic by something committed by 0.02% of them? Why are so people so intent on such blame? It accomplishes less than nothing, it just antagonizes the group you are attempting to reach.
Because it happens enough to be a problem. Mexicans are also more likely to die from any of those things than from cartel violence so I guess cartels are not a problem? I'm gonna assume you suck at statistics, because the alternative is that you're sexist.
You're a dumbass. Stop gaslighting women. /A man
My god, I am a cis male and I don't feel threatened or targeted by this. I think there's a reason why certain men feel attacked.
I should have expected to see a bunch of whining when I opened the thread.
I'm also cis male and I am worried about strange men coming near me at night when no one is around. Because, you know, muggers and shit. They murder sometimes too. Does that make you whiny little bitches' hurt feelings go away?
Yup, and we are less likely to be targeted. Also, not a whole lot of women out there murdering around town at night.
My brother is a cis male too, he was assaulted and robbed, by two males (at least seemingly so, can't exactly say what they identify as 6 years later).
Just a bunch of males who only complain about the statistics of men being harmed when women talk about systemtic sexism. They'd probably also loudly claim that white people are victims of racism too when a black people talks about being harassed by cops.
Fucking hate Reddit 2.0 for this shit.
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Reading the comments make me feel like I'm reading 4chan. How are people getting triggered by that post
It's literally engagement bait gender wars bullshit. This conversation is fucking useless until you start asking WHY and none of them do, they just start throwing bullshit around about their own personal anecdotes or start screaming "NO THATS NOT TRUE" "YES IT IS"
It's a useless never ending "debate". Man vs. Bear should've taught us that. Mods should've locked the post or deleted it already IMO.
One of the mods posted this
Enacting change is not the point of the post, it's just a woman making a joke about the way she experiences life to others who may experience life in the same way. Men just got their feelings hurt and now, instead of trying to prove they're not sexist, they're in full denial about the rampant oppression women live every day.
I'm gonna bring this thread up the next time people throw a tantrum when I say Lemmy is sexist.
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