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Didn’t Linus get un-cancelled after the investigation didn’t find anything?
I don't know the details but it seems like GN and Linux Sebastion are throwing punches again, with Louis Rossman having published a video siding with the former today
my take was that GN Steve is the one throwing punches and Linus said on the WAN Show that he didn't want any part of it
Linus is scummy, definitely only cares about $$ and image. kept pushing honey after he knew it was a scam and left his fans in the dark to continue getting tracked and scammed. immoral shit bag.
I feel like a lot of this is wrong. He only knew about the creator link hijacking, not the anti consumer practice of not using the best Coupons.
Additionally he did drop honey? He didn't keep pushing it.
If he didn't know about the fake coupon comparison how is he leaving the fanbase to get scammed?
so if you took money from a company, then found out they're shady as shit and stealing money from the users that you probably helped start using their service, would you just stop using them, or would you feel obligated to say something to the millions of people you convinced to use it? I've never used honey, it was pretty clear to me they would have to have your history and data to do what they offer.
do you think it's enough to just stop using them and not help those that you lead down the wrong path, for fear it would damage your "image"? he's scummy man, no better way to put it, especially since money was involved.
At what point did he know they were 'stealing from users'? Do you mean the thing where they don't use the best coupon code? Because Linus has stated multiple times he didn't know about, only the affiliate link changing, which only effects creators, not users.
What does history and data have to do with any of this? Of course they would have it.
I feel like a lot of different points are getting conflated and mixed into one point. Which is making it hard to address points.
As for what he should have done given the information he had at the time. Dropping the sponsor seemed ok. Anyone that cares about let sponsors can go to their forum, give feedback, and read why they have dropped sponsors.
Linus still keeps saying something along the lines of honey still gets people the best deals, even though the coupon codes are part of the scam. (Honey coupon 10% off, but you can find 20% and 30% off on other coupon websites, honey does not get the best deal almost never.
He is not saying that at all? He said, at the time he believed that was the case. Which he knows now is not true. But back then he only knew about the affiliate link redirection, which only effected creators not consumers.
I did hear him say those words on the wan show, but maybe I might have missed what he said before that or idk. Seemed weird if he was doubling down.
He also said in the wan show a few times that he never watches YouTube and only reads comments for the gist of it, so maybe he is uninformed. Idk
Yeah so I really like Louis Rossman but he’s kinda inconsistent. His recent video brings up his narcissistic behaviour but a couple months ago there was this: https://youtu.be/qHwP6S_jf7g
And this video was posted wayyy after Linus’ narcissistic behaviour was on full display. Not to mention in terms of harmful youtube channels out there I feel like ltt is really not that horrible comparatively. ltt is a proponent for right to repair and consumer protection. Not to say we shouldn’t continue to criticize Linus but I don’t know about completely discounting ltt
Louis definitely has some ass hole characteristics too, but he has some solid points. $65k for a sponsor? ltt only cares about $, it shows big time.
also, all YouTube personalities are narcissistic lol
Louis’ point wasn’t about the price of the sponsorship. His point was that he was that Linus was justifying himself by pointing at the forum post, but the forum post isn’t worth $65k, and that Linus can’t compare a forum post to several sponsored segments.
It’s also worth mentioning that $65k is the highest number on that list, A midroll is $7k.
there were a lot of points, one being if you pushed honey through a video, a video should have been used to say delete honey, not hide it somewhere no one goes, that's some shady "terms and conditions" bullshit
Why would he tell people to delete honey? At the time he didn't know about the coupon issue, so in his head it still gave consumers the best deal.
Should he tell people to delete Honey so he can get more money from affiliate marketing?
just to be honest with people, how hard is that? costs nothing to be a decent human.
Actually it can costs a lot to be a decent human being.
How else should LMG pay the 150+ people they got working there? Not to mention All the projects, testing lab, the new public LAN / Badminton center, taxes, ect. People dont seem to understand money on business scale all they see is a number bigger than they can conceive compared their personal bank account.
that's the same defense from companies who pay their employees shit and make billions in profit. profit shouldn't exist.
65k for a sponsored video seems fine? What is the point you are trying to make? It might be interesting to compare it with other forms of advertising.
Interesting, I saw him on a Jimmy Kimmel thumbnail recently so I thought the controversy was over.
Linus Testosterone.
Lina Estrogen
(Idk what's the female version of "Linus")
It's Lena, of course. Fate.
Well hand over the Lena Estrogen pwease 🥺👉👈
I hope you get what you need.