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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 53 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

This will be great for business. If I had Tesla, I would try to get rid of it.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Assuming you can sell the Tesla, doesn't that just mean that there are just as many people looking to buy a Tesla?

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 171 points 22 hours ago

That is an out-fucking-standing protest projection.

[–] sudo@lemmy.today 163 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Introducing the new Model SS.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago

You can get a box trailer upgrade for the model X that can transport 'livestock' on the cheap, called the model X-terminate

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[–] Arigion@feddit.org 210 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The Swasticar Wankpanzer is 100% something he would call the truck if his sycophant followers jokingly suggested it.

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[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 155 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Brave protest. Pretty sure Nazi imagery is illegal in Germany. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong

[–] DegenerationIP@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Freedom of art in that regard. The only illegal thing might be to project something to the factory

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nope it's legal. §303 StGB:

Whoever, without being authorised to do so, substantially and permanently alters the appearance of an object belonging to another [...]

Projections are far from permanent. What I'm blanking on right now is whether cleaning something is captured under that wording, I vaguely remember them discussing changing it, dunno if they have. If a wall is dirty enough you can make a great graffito with nothing but a pressure washer.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

A projection is not permanent mate.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

That is what he said yes.

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[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Is that a thing in Germany? Genuinely asking

[–] DegenerationIP@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes. You can even use a swastika if the intend is clear. For example a figure throwing it into a trashcan.

I'm not a lawyer, but the word "Heil" ist not forbidden and Also its a picture of something relevant that happened. So in my opinion the Art itself is not illegal. Only the projection onto the building.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DegenerationIP@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

You're welcome :)

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 442 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Making the German state officially state that this is Nazi imagery would be a worthwhile win lol.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 40 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure they have explicitly come out and said that the gesture was what we all know it to be. I'm sure the Internet can verify it for you though

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago

Not sure about anyone from the government much less in an official function but e.g. the Zeit used the title "A Hitler salute is a Hitler salute is a Hitler salute", and the rest of the press isn't any more ambiguous, either.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 87 points 1 day ago

lol didn’t even think of that

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[–] Lupus@feddit.org 75 points 1 day ago (15 children)

There's plenty of "fair use" cases which would allow it.

§86a STGB allows for the use of "symbols of anti-constitutional organizations" in cases of:

  • art (e.g. the movie "Downfall")
  • scientific research
  • education
  • news or other broadcast (covering Nazi Protests in the US for example, German news station don't have to censor the Swastika flags or the like)

And probably applying in this case - in protesting said anti-constitutional organizations, for example a crossed out Swastika as a form of protest against Nazis is still very much legal.

Most important is the intent. If you plan to use those symbols with the intent of furthering the ideology of anti-constitutional organizations, it is probably forbidden. The intention has to be clearly against those organizations, otherwise it might be actionable.

Btw the communist party of Germany, the KPD is also considered an anti-constitutional organization and therefore it's symbols are forbidden in the same way.

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[–] Dequei@sopuli.xyz 184 points 1 day ago (8 children)
[–] itsathursday@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago

Man baby needs to be held accountable for his actions.

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