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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I’m really not able to keep up with the hive on this. One minute- they hate TikTok, A day later, they defend TikTok?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

The hive is (or at least was) a bit split. Many users seem to hate TikTok because they just dislike it for whatever reason (e.g., addictive short form videos), but others view this as a fascist move by the US or anti-China.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

I think Trump is going to try to work out a deal where TickTok gets to stay the way it is if the company publicly blames Democrats for all the noise.

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[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There are laws, TikTok is almost certainly breaking them.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

So are Facebook, Google, Apple, Microsoft, and pretty much any big US corporation out there. But protectionism tends to ignore that. They should all (including) either be banned or hit with monumental fines.

None that are comprehensive and strong like all the rest of the G7

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (23 children)

They did. Divisions H and I of HR 815 of the 118th Congress make it illegal to collect, broker, lease, trade, or sell US Citizen's personally identifying data to an adversarial nation which is defined in Article 10 as China, Russia, Iran, or North Korea.

You're complaining about the law and you literally have no idea what that law says?

[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cool so what does this law do for me again? I live in America i personally will never interact with those 4 countries. The wording is also dangerous calling Chinaa foreign adversary comparable with the other 3. Which is dangerous. We are in active war with 3 where as China we do massive business.

Passed in April 2024 so useful when Facebook was a broker for Russia in 2016 DIVISION H-- PROTECTING AMERICANS FROM FOREIGN ADVERSARY CONTROLLED APPLICATIONS ACT

Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act

(Sec. 2) This division prohibits distributing, maintaining, updating, or providing internet hosting services for a foreign adversary controlled application (e.g., TikTok). However, the prohibition does not apply to a covered application that executes a qualified divestiture as determined by the President.

Under the division, a foreign adversary controlled application is an application directly or indirectly operated by (1) ByteDance, Ltd., TikTok, their subsidiaries, successors, related entities they control, or entities controlled by a foreign adversary country; or (2) a social media company that is controlled by a foreign adversary country and determined by the President to present a significant threat to national security. (Here, a social media company excludes any website or application primarily used to post product reviews, business reviews, or travel information and reviews.)

For the purposes of this division, a foreign adversary country includes North Korea, China, Russia, and Iran.

A qualified divestiture is a transaction that the President has determined (through an interagency process)

would result in the relevant foreign adversary controlled application no longer being controlled by a foreign adversary, and
precludes the establishment or maintenance of any operational relationship between the U.S. operations of the relevant application and any formerly affiliated entities that are controlled by a foreign adversary (including any cooperation with respect to the operation of a content recommendation algorithm or a data-sharing agreement).

The prohibition applies 270 days after the date of the division’s enactment. The division authorizes the President to grant a one-time extension of up to 90 days to a covered application when the President has certified to Congress that (1) a path to executing a qualified divestiture of the covered application has been identified, (2) evidence of significant progress toward executing such qualified divestiture of the covered application has been produced, and (3) relevant legal agreements to enable execution of such qualified divestiture during the period of such extension are in place.

Additionally, the division requires a covered foreign adversary controlled application to provide a user with all available account data (including posts, photos, and videos) at the user's request before the prohibition takes effect. The account data must be provided in a machine-readable format.

The division authorizes the Department of Justice to investigate violations and enforce its provisions. Entities that that violate the division are subject to civil penalties for violations. An entity that violates the prohibition on distributing, maintaining, updating, or providing internet hosting services for a covered application is subject to a maximum penalty of $5,000 multiplied by the number of U.S. users who have accessed, maintained, or updated the application as a result of the violation. An entity that violates the requirement to provide account data to a user upon request is subject to a maximum penalty of $500 multiplied by the number of U.S. users impacted by the violation.

(Sec. 3) The division gives the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia exclusive jurisdiction over any challenge to the division. A challenge to the division must be brought within 165 days after the division’s enactment date. A challenge to any action, finding, or determination under the division must be brought with 90 days of the action, finding, or determination.

DIVISION I--PROTECTING AMERICANS’ DATA FROM FOREIGN ADVERSARIES ACT OF 2024

Protecting Americans' Data from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act of 2024

This division makes it unlawful for a data broker to sell, license, rent, trade, transfer, release, disclose, or otherwise make available specified personally identifiable sensitive data of individuals who reside in the United States to North Korea, China, Russia, or Iran or an entity controlled by such a country (e.g., headquartered in or owned by a person in the country).

Sensitive data includes government-issued identifiers (e.g., Social Security numbers), financial account numbers, biometric information, genetic information, precise geolocation information, and private communications (e.g., texts or emails).

A data broker generally includes an entity that sells or otherwise provides data of individuals that the entity did not collect directly from the individuals. A data broker does not include an entity that transmits an individual's data or communications at the request or direction of the individual or an entity that makes news or information available to the general public.

The division provides for enforcement by the Federal Trade Commission.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Top part opinion the rest is the wording of the law you quoted. Want to point out if it has fangs or any actual good legislation or just say they did a thing?

[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

If only someone gave a shit about the law

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Data privacy is so much more than "selling data to China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea." What a weak rebuttal.

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[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It would be easy and rational to attribute misinformation memes like this to ignorance, but to be honest I can't help by imagine it is malice.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

There's definitely some malice in there i don't doubt, which likely bleeds into the unwillingness to prove one's biases wrong

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The meme references the US violating privacy.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And what does the meme say?

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It says the US wants to be the only one stealing your data and spying on you.

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[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

We can’t afford bread and they’re trying to ban the circus

This was the obvious progression

The real kick in the nuts is that we get to see that the average Chinese can afford groceries and has disposable income for entertainment, and just in general doesn’t have the insane monetary burdens we have here.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The average Chinese citizen doesn't have much access to the internet.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

According to this statista article at least 80% of their population has mobile phones with internet access as of 2023. So I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about here.

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

If the catered ads weren’t so obvious that pretty much most social platforms are stealing your data, not sure what is.

Nothing is free. Especially a ‘free’ account. You are the product at that point.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

YOUR data doesn't matter. Information gained from mass analysis of data that is tied to govt workers and military personnel is a security concern and it is treated as such. Nobody cares about your particular data, on either side (well, maybe ad companies, but if you are a tiktoker, you are already fully compromised there).

On the up side for tiktok kids. The CCP will likely order trump to unblock it.

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