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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 29 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Socialism works

From here

Examples from this post by /u/bayarea415, Stephen Gowans - Do publicly owned, planned economies work, Ian Goodrum - Socialism vs Capitalism and quality of life, and yogthos's USSR acheivements post about the USSR specifically:

When it is claimed that a system works, we should ask, who it works for. Capitalism benefits a tiny number of rapacious capitalists, to the detriment of the rest of us, while Socialism works for the masses.


Now let's take a look at what happens after the USSR collapsed, and what came with capitalist privatization:

For an overview of the soviet experiment, watch this brilliant talk by Micheal Parenti, or read his article, Left anticommunism, the unkindest cut.

Also read this great article by Stephen Gowans, Do publicly owned, planned economies work?. Audio on youtube

[–] Beldarofremulak@discuss.online 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Have you thought about a command economy? Centrally run by a Highmaster? Who will no doubt create the prestigious title "Fuel Survey Underlord of the Wilderness Planet at the end of the Noctolium Solar Chain".

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

a relevant passage from This Soviet World by Anna Louise Strong

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Should I make one of these that has all the Auth left countries telling the free thinker that "this is the only way to communism"?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Except countries that have existing socialism aren't doing that. In fact, China very openly says that their system is a product of their history, culture, and material conditions. Unlike western libs, they're not trying to franchise and remodel other countries into their own image. Neither does Cuba or Vietnam last I checked.

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

China is only looking for military solutions to expsnd their systen where it is not a product of history : Taiwan, Philippines, bits of India, entire Tibet ... scratch that. Tibet is already a product of Chinese "... history, culture, and material conditions."

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 50 minutes ago
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This is also why the CPC names their system Socialism with Chinese Characteristics. They want a multi-polar world, where hundreds of different socialisms can bloom on their own without fear of intervention, and especially being attacked by the US:

"Socialism with [insert any country here] characteristics"

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Can you imagine a Cuba without the embargo?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Would be pretty wonderful, they could be as far along as the PRC, but in the western hemisphere. The US could never tolerate the threat of a good example so close to its borders though of course.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 5 hours ago

They already have to deal with Cuban healthcare and doctors.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 0 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Communism has the same problem as every other system

People

[–] funnyguy@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 hours ago

Communism has the same problem as every other system

la cia

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago) (1 children)

Mao actually said deeper stuff

EDIT: Many communists claim there is no record of this. They are correct - there is no official record of this ... in China.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 52 minutes ago

Mao pointing out the depravity of the Yankeestan and willingness to use nuclear weapons against other nations isn't the own that you seem to think it is. By the way, I love how you follow me around like a court jester. It's adorable.

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Very good! Can you make a crayon drawing of that?

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 hour ago

Polit buro prefers pencil colours.