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For the past two years, Donald Trump has spread fear about the state of the United States and championed himself as the only man capable of saving the country from itself. Only he could bring down the price of groceries and gas. Only he could fix the broken health care system. Only he could fix the broken immigration system. Only he could end the wars in Ukraine and in the Middle East.

Now that the voters have drunk the Kool-Aid, the jig is up. The grift is over and the prize of the presidency is won. But will the buyers of the golden sneakers have buyer’s remorse? I suspect that for all but the most cult-following MAGA lemmings, the answer to that question is yes.

Despite two years of constant finger-pointing at the Biden administration for rising grocery prices that were actually decreasing during that time, since the election, Trump has gone dead silent on the issue of working class cost of living issues. His only comment on grocery prices was during his interview with Time magazine for his man of the year article in which he admitted that there isn’t much he can do to bring grocery prices back down to the levels of 2019. Economically, the only thing that will do that is a strong recession that no one wants. He has said virtually nothing about the cost of gasoline, in large part because the prices were already falling to four-year lows before the election and have continued to fall since.

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[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago

Truly, this reporting is valid and important. Also, this is so totally predictable that all I can do is sarcastically clutch my pearls.

[–] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

People keep expecting Trump's followers to suddenly wake up and realize they've been scammed when they see what he actually does in office. Most of their support for him is based on obvious lies and they have seen how he really behaved as president. Either they know he's been lying and don't care or they have deluded themselves into ignoring reality altogether. Watching him stab them repeatedly in the back in not going to change their opinions. And if he hurts people they don't like badly enough, they will still consider that a win.

[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah the "told you so" stuff falls on deaf ears. Trump is an internet troll. His supporters have come to embody that. They are content rolling in their own shit. Anyone is welcome to join.

There's no reasoning or out trolling trolls. No going low or going high. You're supposed to ignore trolls. Ultimately they are the lone fool rolling in their own shit. The time to do this was in the 2016 campaign. Should have ignored him and elected an establishment Republican. Donald would be shilling steaks or whatever right now.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

A lot of the people that voted for Trump are fed “democrats bad” by Fox News, OAN and other far right news outlets that are unabashedly playing on the break-room TV.

[–] disgrunty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Dixon White's future MAGA 2029 videos seem only to be half a joke. For all we know, Queen Elonia just hasn't cracked her egg yet.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 37 points 2 days ago
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Of course he has. He has neither a plan nor a chance to deliver here. All he can do is keeping as quiet as possible about it in hope that his MAGA sponge brains forget this was a thing he promised.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh he does have a plan.

He has project 2025, and when that's done, the ruins left that were once the USA will finally realize that trump (or just populist politics in general) maybe wasn't sucks a good idea

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hopefully the Americans will actually notice who ruined them...

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ooh will it be Nancy Pelosi?

There's no high ranking Democrat for them to use for a scapegoat anymore. It's gonna be like the Senate minority leader or Gavin Newsom.

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[–] ninjabard@lemmy.world 118 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Too bad he can't go silent permanently.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Another Mangione could help

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[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (5 children)

He can and he will. He will go away forever one day.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] ReanuKeeves@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

And how many people do you think are in line to be the face of the same idealogy? Our society is made by, made for and rewards sociopathy. There is no bright future until we start looking at these issues that start in childhood. Kids are being raised thinking if they bully everyone in their path then they can be the president. How about we start teaching kids that increasing quality of life for future generations so they can flourish and make more advancements is a much better idea than being a massive piece of orange colored shit.

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The one saving grace is that Trump's whole thing has been a cult of personality, and nobody else in the MAGA movement has been nearly on his level in that regard. There's a good chance the whole thing falls apart without him.

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Despite two years of constant finger-pointing at the Biden administration for rising grocery prices that were actually decreasing during that time

The prices have not been decreasing, the rate of increase has been decreasing. But grocery prices were and are still going up. Source: the article you linked.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everything goes up. That's inflation. It's part of a healthy economy.

You don't want prices to go down. Prices going down is deflation. Money stagnates as businesses and individuals sit on cash because any investment is bound to lose, and stagnating money is devastating to an economy.

[–] Narauko@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

You do want prices that were part of a bubble to go back down to sustainable levels, that isn't deflation it's market correction. The bubble created by the pandemic and supply side restrictions isn't natural or part of regular healthy inflation. Excessive inflation is just as bad as stagnant money for an economy, it just looks healthier on the outside until the moment it keels over.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It would be ironic if Trump actually "Made America Great Again" by being the direct cause of his base rising up against him, the billionaire class and the current status quo leading to systemic reform and a more equitable society.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 1 day ago

That didn't happen last time, despite people hoping for it back then too.

It's a bit of a paradox, but he actually stayed clear of a total crash last time by not doing his job. He used most of his time scamming the system for money by doing everything at his estates, but it's remarkable how little he actually fucked up because he was occupied with those small amount scams. He's not just a bad businessman, he's also incompetent as a scammer.

I expect the following years to be another golf tour for him, and that's probably the best outcome. Again.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The problem is that they would probably just put in another, stupider, dictator in his place. Worse, someone who actually knew what they were doing desiring to consolidate power.

[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

JD Vance enacting Article 2, Section 4...

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Here is my well reasoned and thoughtful response:

Duh.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 9 points 2 days ago

With peace and love: All the comments saying this should reconsider next time. Saying “duh” to oppression normalizes oppression.

The worst most bigoted most bootlicking red-voting person you know is happy chatting about the evil that is H1Bs and how we are annexing Greenland and Panama right now. They need to hear that the person they voted in has dropped his support for helping them through their struggles to feed themselves.

Generally, we are all saying “duh” to the wrong things. All the top comments here are “duh” while no one yada yada’d the Greenland annexation theatrics.

Again I am being blunt so no hate to you specifically, you are just the top comment representing a larger pattern.

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[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 10 points 2 days ago

Demagogue: a political leader who seeks support by appealing to the desires and prejudices of ordinary people rather than by using rational argument.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think his plan was deflation or something and I don't think it made any sense

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[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He spent his entire campaign saying how expensive things were and his plan to fix is was to raise prices on everything. Not sure what they were expecting.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They'll make it up when the vast majority get those sweet income tax raises.

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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago
[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, no surprise. All of his policies last time were for the wealthy. But more importantly, all of the things Elan is planning to cut are going to hurt the poor and they didn't say they were going to give any of that money to people, just that they were going to cut the deficit. If running the country like a business, you never cut income, even if you cut expenses. Businesses with monopolies keep the profits from reduced expenses, not pass them on to customers, that would be dumb.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Who would want the government to be run like a business? Businesses exist for profit. Where's the profit gonna come from? The companies and wealthy elite that invested in the campaign? Fat chance.

You want the government to be run like a steady NFP. Not a corporate for-profit business.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

What a ridiculous article. Trump's not even in office yet.

And I'm sorry, but groceries have gone up the last 4 years, and idc what any graph tells me, it doesn't matter if I'm still paying the same high amount for groceries. No idea how the data is laid out or what data was included, but reality is what I hand over to buy the food I need to survive. And it's too damn high.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

If Americans suddenly realize they've been taken for fools, that's why they have their precious 2nd Amendment.

They always bring it up when the issue of gun control comes up for any reason, but they never actually use the 2nd Amendment for what it was original intended, incl. removing dangerous leaders. Trump is the first true, crystal-clear use case.

That must mean most Americans still haven't understood they've been took, or they really dig fascism even at their own expense.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Lol the point of the second amendment wasn't to fight tyrannical governments. It was to control the slaves and prevent/quell uprisings and runaways. Says it right there in the text. "Security of a free State".

The biggest advocates for the second amendment, namely Madison, were big time slavers and worked for the plantations interests.

People seriously buy the whole spiel that the wealthy elite put a "in case of tyranny, break glass" button at the top of the list? I got a bridge to sell y'all.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Hey!!! Whoa!!! That's not fair at all!

......you forgot about that guy on the roof in PA who missed by inches.

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[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Cult is gonna cult.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago

"How could we predict he'd betray us like that?" says people who've spent literal decades watching person in question be incredibly dishonest and slef-serving

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago

It’s almost as if it was a siren call to have the plebs vote for him.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

MAGAt near me that always had multiple batshit crazy trump flags at his house, and still did, up until his house burned down a few days back. T&P's homie. Karma can be like that.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago

Of course. Otherwise his crowd would expect him to fix stuff.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

And in 1... 2... 3... 'he's hurting the wrong people'

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

His only comment on grocery prices was during his interview with Time magazine for his man of the year article in which he admitted that there isn’t much he can do to bring grocery prices back down to the levels of 2019. Economically, the only thing that will do that is a strong recession that no one wants.

This is what folks don't seem to understand: prices only go back to where they were five or six years ago if there's a recession, and a severe one at that. The Fed is trying to get inflation under control, but even if they're successful, that doesn't mean prices will come down, that only means prices won't go up as quickly. Getting inflation under control means prices go up 2% per year instead of 2.5% or 3%. Trump can't change any of this, and many of the policies he says he plans to implement would likely make it more difficult to get inflation down to the Fed's 2% target.

TLDR, shit ain't getting any less expensive unless there's a pretty bad recession, and Trump can't change that.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

If he proceeds with his moronic tariffs, we might get not only a bad recession, but a depression.

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