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[–] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Socialism is scary and way worse than capitalism in many ways

What you're thinking of is social democracy.

minimum wage, universal healthcare, all the nice stuff here in Europe is social-democratic, not socialist

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The only real problem I have with capitalism is the people that refuse to consider any other way of operating, refuse to rein it in, or immediately make it a binary choice between capitalism and “scary” communism.

Economic systems don’t need to be corralled into boxes and never be allowed cross lines. The people forcing that take are the ones profiting from the status quo, by power and/or wealth.

Any of the systems can be combined, the problem is fight against greed that makes people bend the system to funnel power money to a specific group. Whether it be the dictator and his cronies or a bunch of oligarchs. If this cannot be prevented, then no system will work without eventually crushing the average person.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (26 children)

People don't realize that not every implementation of Socialist policies have to involve a vanguardist dictatorship like China or USSR (which is what almost every American have in mind when they think of "Socialism")

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Socialism and capitalism have a lot of overlap. This belief and meme that they are completely separate is incredibly simple-minded and indicative of US thinking patterns. US Americans have had it beaten into their heads that there are only two sides for so long that it permeates their very being.

To have a fair system, components of multiple philosophies and systems will have to be mixed. Treating capitalism as all bad is plain dumb.

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[–] Shard@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (3 children)

We're angry about unbridled end-stage capitalism

Just like with everything in life, there's a right amount of something and its not zero. Properly regulated free market is probably the best economic system we've come up with. I challenge you to come up with a better system.

Its the fact that we've voted in greedy leaders and have such lax rules about lobbying and open bribery that's allowed so much shit to happen.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Greedy people vote for greedy leaders. Money mattered more than morals in at least the last federal elections since 2000.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

This might be a better system.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago (6 children)

By the way, commerce is not the same thing as capitalism.

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