The problem is that the enterprise level cards can't really perform at the consumer market level nor are they designed for it. Many don't even have video outputs.
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GPU prices are gonna get cheaper, annnnyyyy day now folks, any day now
That's what I'm saying since 2020, people don't have patience any more.
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I believe it is likely that there will be a burst at some point, just as with the dot-com burst.
But I think many people wrongly think that it will be the end of or a major setback for AI.
I see no reason why in twenty years AI won't be as prevalent as "dot-com's" are now.
I agree, history always repeats itself. But perhaps the timing is different, it could be 20 years, 10 years, or 50 years who knows
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How much if a discount are you expecting to start gaming on a 30k card with no video output?
Not for gaming, for running AI open source models and other AI shenanigans. My 4080 Super has been filling my gaming needs and will for years to come, but it's not enough for my AI interests lol
The most I can get out of this 4080 is running a ~7B param model, but I want to run cooler shit like that new open source DeepSeek v3 that dropped the other day.
So you're waiting for the AI bubble to burst because you can't wait to run all the cool new AI models?
Yea, the underlying tech is what interests me and I have a few potential use cases. Use cases that I would never entrust a random company with. For example, the concept of MS recall is cool, I'd never trust Microshits implementation though. But an open source local version that I'm in control of all the security implementations? Hell yea lol
That's the problem. If the use case is super cool, and 99% of people have no knowledge (or motivation) to set it up for themselves, the online services will keep existing, and the bubble won't really burst.
Even if some single companies fail (and they will, there some truly horrendous ideas getting funding), the big players will buy the GPUs wholesale before they hit ebay.
Nuclear energy could also be a weird side effect of the bubble.
You don't want a used GPU that's been running overclocked for years on end bro.
Multiple outlets including LTT and Gamers Nexus have debunked this.
The only thing you may have to do if you notice unusual performance is reapply thermal paste to the GPU, and that’s only because most thermal paste will dry out after years of sitting around or being used
The price of gpus would go down as there would be less demand.
Same goes for the death of windows 10. I want me some cheap Linux boxes.
Aw, I was hoping the whole thing would rhyme after the first line.
There may be a dip in prices for a bit, but since covid, more companies have realized they can get away with manufacturing fewer units and selling them for a higher price.
Unfortunately, this time around the majority of AI build up are GPUs that are likely difficult to accomodate in a random build.
If you want a GPU for graphics, well, many of them don't even have video ports.
If your use case doesn't need those, well, you might not be able to reasonably power and cool the sorts of chips that are being bought up.
The latest wrinkle is that a lot of that overbuying is likely to go towards Grace Blackwell, which is a standalone unit. Ironically despite being a product built around a GPU but needing a video port, their video port is driven by a non-nvidia chip.
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Lol no, I mean it would be a bubble if it didn't provide anything useful, or transformative, but that's far from the truth.
Like it or not, even LLMs have been found to help in health treatments, mental support , workplace efficiency and so on
AI is here to stay, it's basically the next industrial revolution
Crypto miners watcing AI bubble.
Silverlight, what are you doing here? Go on, get outta here!
I just want the ai hate bubble to burst, the hype bubble probably needs to go as well but honestly I care less about that
I want the hype bubble to burst because I want them to go back to making AI for useful stuff like cancer screening and stop trying to cram it into my fridge or figure out how to avoid paying their workers, and the hate bubble isn't going to stop until that does.
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Nah the hype will just make the POP louder.
The AI bubble burst is gonna wreck the market and send us into another recession. Especially if the crypto bubble bursts at a similar time.
Those in charge brought it on themselves. They can’t see through their own hype and lies and cult-like worship. It’s the rest of us that will hurt the most though.
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Word of caution: these used GPUs will have spent a lot of time doing AI bullshit with as little downtime as possible. Make sure you get a good enough deal for the risk that it just dies in 2 months.
As little downtime as possible is actually better than having more downtime, as the major problems come from heating/cooling cycles
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It's both for me
I'll buy a dozen and build my own AI farm tyvm.
it would be amazing to have several models running and have them interact together for some real immersive DnD rp.
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