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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

What I fear is, with Elongated Muskrat being dangerously close to the government and being invested in AI, we will get them immediately bailed out and/or consolidated into even less hands, even more deregulations, and maybe even some changes to copyright so it will expcilitly will allow not only the training on such material, but also the copyrighting of the output of generative AI.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Pop that bastard asap

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 78 points 3 days ago (2 children)

please just burst already.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Now imagine how people who've waited for the bitcoin bubble to burst feel

[–] wdx@feddit.org 14 points 2 days ago

Me waiting for the housing market: 💀

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Been edging this bubble for years

It's gonna be NICE

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

New York stock exchange

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 42 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Every single company pouring money into the incinerator is positive they'll be the one to crack actually useful AI or even actual GAI.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah. They just believe it will make stock values increase (or that not doing thr AI thing will cause stock values to decrease).

Remember, a publically traded company produces shareholder value. How they do it doesn't matter.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Imagine how much more valuable alphabet stocks would be if they hadn't destroyed the core design and user experience of their search engine 😅

Most of the current value of AI comes from the fact that Google is useless now.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I mean LLMs are already very useful when used correctly, it's just 98% of the time they aren't used correctly

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

We're talking about the bubble here, not reasonable use cases. :-)

[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (5 children)

How do I use it “correctly”

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

We used one to come up with a name for a feature cocktail at work. It's pretty good for that kind of stuff.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I had some files that i knew had duplicates, but didn't exactly match and while the filenames were not identical, you could tell by looking if they were the same.

Would have been very tedious to do all of them, LLM was able to identify a "good enough" number of duplicates and only made a few mistakes. Greatly sped up the manual work required to clean up the collection.

But that's so far from most advertised scenarios and not compelling from a "make lots of money" perspective.

[–] argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

There are (non-AI) algorithms for that. Git uses one to detect renames. No need to melt the ice caps just for that.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

This was after applying various mechanisms of the traditional kind. Admittedly there was one domain specific strategy that want applied that would have caught a few more, but not all of them.

The point is that I had a task that was hard to code up, but trivial yet tedious for a human. AI approaches can bridge that gap sometimes.

In terms of energy consumption, it wouldn't be so bad if the approaches weren't horribly over used. That's the problem now, 99% of usage is garbage. If it settled down to like 3 or 4% of usage it would still be just as useful, but no one would bat an eye at the energy demand.

As with a lot of other bubble things, my favorite part is probably going to be it's life after the bubble pops. When the actually useful use cases remain and the stupid stuff does out.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You use it for pointers and double check the results. I've had a lot of luck using it to explain terminology for complicated specialized tasks for trades work and stuff recently.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're decent at language tasks. So, if you provide them with all the information and configure them to not make up any of their own, then they can do things like rewriting it in a different style or different language relatively competently.

[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

and configure them to not make up any of their own

That's the trillion dollar puzzle nobody has been able to solve yet. It's not trivial at all, even when it seems like it should be.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

"Correctly " is a term that has several different uses and meanings. Depending on the context, "Correctly" can mean:

[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i really really do not trust any of those cunts with agi.

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 days ago

my only hope for AGI is that it gets open sourced and is easily runnable on sub $10,000 hardware.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 28 points 3 days ago (4 children)

How is Nvidia so high up the chart?

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 71 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The people selling the shovels made more money than the miners during the gold rush. It's the same thing here. If you want to do AI at any sort of scale, Nvidia is really your only choice because AMD and Intel sat on their hands for so long.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All the profit, zero risk. Selling shovels is always better.

[–] HansGruber@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Except when no one wants shovels anymore.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 4 points 2 days ago

That's the trick, people will always want shovels. Even after the gold rush ends, the only difference is demand for shovels goes back to normal, it doesn't disappear.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

It is a shock, but at least they received their money without being left holding the bag. They have a committed backlog over a year long, they seem to be avoiding manufacturing more than they have already sold ..

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 20 points 3 days ago

Ahh, right.

There are some legit use cases for AI, so they will no doubt make a decent amount of money in the future from it.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When the AI bubble burst, they've already made their cash selling shovels (being very anticompetitive) and walk away. Their startup competitors wither, and they are set for the next "thing."

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Anticompetitive? Nobody showed up to compete. Nvidia has been developing Cuda and AI tools for many years. AMD and Intel ignored the market segment because it was a niche market for so long.

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
[–] Henry@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago