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[–] yardy_sardley@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The sub went to shit practically overnight, and it happened right around the time of the freedumb convoy. I don't think it's a coincidence.

How in-your-face was that sudden drop in hostile "freedom from TruDope" commentary the week Russia invaded Ukraine and they all got new influencer assignments or something?

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago

It was bad way before, I switched to r/onguardforthee and the people were nicer before I made my way over to !Canada in 2023.

[–] spector@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago

The new waves of users finding out reddit is no better than the dumpster fire social media sites they fled.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

r/Canada has always been a shit show but the alleged bot/paid actor activity is very concerning.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago

The longer I spend in the Fediverse the more obviously fake reddit is when I occasionally look at it (through an anonymous front-end)

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago

I'm not even from canada and I knew r/onguardforthee was the less shitty version of r/canada. I'm not sure why she's surprised they're being shit.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The moderation issue on Reddit is also a problem that is already extremely prevalent here on Lemmy, which more or less shares the same system. If foreign actors like Russia decide to influence the Fediverse (which is already highly radicalized), they'd have a very easy time. The modlog even actually helps abusive mods more than the users who become target of mod abuse, since they can just scrub the evidence and provide bullshit mod action reasons that most people who read it will just take at face value without actually questioning them.

[–] araneae@beehaw.org 6 points 6 days ago

If foreign actors like Russia decide to influence the Fediverse (which is already highly radicalized), they'd have a very easy time.

If? Did you see the mental gymnastics and agitprop going on around the election to get Trump elected? One or more nation state botnets is already deeply entrenched here. Since the election they became inactive and the stream of murder/suicide-"leftist" posting died down. Denialism of the Russian disinfo operations, which are well documenteted at this point, is also decently common here. I will probably get a comment about it in fact.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't it easier to remove such mods on Lemmy instances, where the admins are not working for a commercial entity?

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not if the admins are just as shitty as the mods, which I've seen plenty of by now.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right, but that's where better/worse instances can make a difference. Unless all instances are shit. But they aren't. Ours is pretty good as far as I can tell. And it's run by a proper non-profit.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 2 points 6 days ago

People also say that about db0 & SJW, which I know is not true. It's easy to say things are okay when you're not directly affected.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Welcome to 2020?

Or 2010 if you're a French Canadian, because r/Canada being shit with French Canadians has always been the norm.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I love how Canadians shit on the Bloc QuΓ©bΓ©cois, but if you post their platform without a name attached everyone thinks it's the greatest party ever.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hell, look at the current party leaders and tell me Yves-François Blanchet isn't the only one you would put in the PM position!

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I am begging for a change to our voting system at this point almost as much as I am begging for people to actually read the election programmes. Look past the face on the TV, learn what they actually stand for folks!

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 days ago

Pro tip, as someone who's been around enough politicians to know: They're all acting, all the time. You can't win an election any other way.

If you actually buy what they're selling personality-wise you're a sucker. Read the damn platforms, or just ignore politics.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's literally what we were just talking about, the party platforms and the leader's ability to discuss them.

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Exactly why I commented that. :-)

[–] SamuelRJankis@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Just want to say Rachel Gilmore one of my favourite modern social media journalist. Certainly worth a follow if you're into that format of Canadian political content.