Isn't this essentially "exercise is good for you"?
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Exercise combined with no driving stressors and being outside.
I don't think many people who regularly bike in an urban environment would agree that "no driving stressors" is an applicable description of the activity.
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The nuance is that exercise that's baked into people's everyday routines gets done, and so extends healthy life. Exercise that requires extra time and effort gets done a lot less. This is why everyday physical activity through moving around is so important
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Exercise is good for you and being able to afford to live somewhere biking to work is a viable means of transportation.
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The crosses and bicycles painted white in memorial on the side of the road near me would tell a different story.
thing is, car drivers aren't really safer from bad drivers killing them
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Are you trying to be funny or are you just doing your best right now?
It's really that deadly on these roads. People without cars make friends with people with cars. There's no other option.
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This statistic tells us that the health benefits of cycling outweigh the increased chance of an accident.
I have lived here 18 years. I have only seen one person try to bicycle commute in that time. He disappeared after a month. It's just two narrow lanes and a ditch with lots of heavy truck traffic, high speeds, and curves. One time I tried walking home from the tire shop - about two miles. Four people stopped to offer me a ride because being on the side of these roads is that dangerous.
"Groundbreaking study finds that cardio is good for you"
YOU wont BELIEVE this ONE WEIRD TRICK that cardiologists HATE!
I don't believe in cardio. It's a conspiracy created by Big Exercise.
I think you mean curvy exercise
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We must now do a new study to see if walking more each day extends your life.
And then another study to see if jogging extends your life.
And other to see if swimming can extend your life.
Unless you get run over by a car because your city doesn't have bike lanes. Then you live shorter.
Cries in Ontario where scary bike lanes are illegal.
many comments saying “duh cardio good” ignore the corollary to this: a society that prevents bike commuting due to dangerous or inaccessible car-centric infrastructure is performing social violence and causing prevetable death
edit: similar considerations apply to the obesity epidemic.
To follow this advice, I'd end up getting my bike out of the garage, riding around the block ... then going back inside to turn on my work laptop. I love working from home.
That being said, a 15 minute morning bike ride before work would still be a good idea.
When I work from home, I bike with my dog for 20-30 minutes in the morning. On office days, I only bike 5 minutes to the train station…
I used to have a wonderful 11km bike commute along the river, my favorite of all time.
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You can still use the bike for shopping and the like. It's still good to get out on WFH days.
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I would have a signficantly shorter lifespan when I get run down by a ford
Apparently bike commuters still come out ahead, judging by the wording.
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What happens when you get ran over by a Toyota instead?
Think of it as a conditional probability time stream on an actuary table:
• Every day that you don't get killed by a Ford f-450, your lifespan increases by a few minutes
• This is like putting pennies into the penny jar
• Eventually the penny jar gets full and then you are killed by a Ford f-450, thus spilling all of the contents (and your contents), onto the road.
• Thus, the energetic principle of conservation of entropy is preserved, with positive entropy.
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My life expectancy would dive off a cliff if I tried to commute by bike. Not because of the bike itself, but rather because of the metal boxes of death whizzing next to me.
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This feels like Hanks Razor would apply. Proximity to work, dedicated bike infrastructure and availability and quality of bikes are all pretty good stand ins for socioeconomic factors having a strong impact on the outcome.
Plus. Let’s say I have a chronic disease or am generally in weak health. I’m going to have a lower life expectancy, and I’m not going to be able to bike to work.
Correlation ≠ Causation
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It seems that they didn't take nutrition into account at all. How much of this study is just "people who exercise just eat better"?
I cycle to work everyday off year I am mostly cheese and beer
Not clear on that, but even if you had a poor diet and exercised regularly, you'd still be better off than if you had a poor diet and were totally sedentary.
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new study confirms
No it doesn't. Their conclusion is "This study strengthens the evidence that active commuting has population-level health benefits and can contribute to reduced morbidity and mortality."
sounds like confirmation to me, an apt popular science headline. maybe you think “confirms” means “proves”?
Well, english is not my first language, but according to Google (they get their word meanings from Oxford) "confirm" means "establish the truth or correctness of (something previously believed or suspected to be the case)." Perhaps in this specific situation "confirm" has different meaning?
Also, there is a lot wrong how science is communicated in popular media. Taking singular study, coming up with sensational (and incorrect) title and making statements that aren't in line with the study is not the way how science should be communicated. Even if there are multiple news outlets writing numerous such articles doesn't make it right, correct or even acceptable.
definitely not trying to speak well of all popular science titles, just saying that this one seems perfectly acceptable :)
and yeah, that Oxford dictionary isn’t giving you the definition used in the scientific sense, so that’s your problem:
The term “confirmation” is used in epistemology and the philosophy of science whenever observational data and evidence “speak in favor of” or support scientific theories and everyday hypotheses. utm.edu
i checked Oxford Learner’s, and the meaning used in this context is number 2 just below what you found.
to make a position, an agreement, etc. more definite or official; to establish somebody/something clearly
language is confusing but this is definitely the scientific one the article means.
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Makes me wonder to what degree the longer life offsets the carbon savings from bike commuting.
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Ha not in my town.
If I biked to work, it would take me 3-4 hours one way...
If I biked to work it would take less than three seconds and leave tyre marks on my carpet.
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