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[–] shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jury Nullfication is the People's Presidential Pardon

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just don't mention jury nullification in front of a judge or prosecutor. They hate that.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Definitely mention it, just not at your own trial or after you've been selected for jury duty

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never mention it. They will often ask questions about how you think a juror should or can act. If you answer them in a way that shows you might know about nullification, you are out. If you then later admit you know about it, they will point to those questions and know you lied about them. Safest answer is to just never, ever use the term, ideally you should go through the motions in deliberation of putting the the rules together, like you are just realizing it's a possibility then and there.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm saying that we should mention it as non jurors. Its our responsibility to tell them. Here on Lemmy and every way we can. Let jurors know that they have the ability to do justice, even if the law is wrong

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 427 points 2 days ago (35 children)

He has the right to be judged by a jury of his peers, and it appears as if his peers agree with his actions.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 253 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"As this man's peers, you must be the judge of his actions."

"Ok"

"Wait, not like that"

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 61 points 2 days ago

Yup. The article mentions that the prosecutors have a problem, but the U.S. people certainly don't.

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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 83 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Billionaries and CEOs don't bother to show up to jury duty

[–] ours@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

And so much for a "jury of our peers" if they are padded with billionaires.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imagine they show for this though...

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I was the only working class juror, I would try my hardest to get the CEO jurors sequestered with me.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can we really call ceo's our peers?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nope. I'd be deliberately wasting their time and money until we're a hung jury. They aren't capable of a good faith discussion.

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Both teams will be given an opportunity to eliminate potential jurors they believe are too sympathetic to the one side or the other.

Good luck with that, you can only weed out a limited number, and there's a fucking lot of us.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 days ago

Working as intended, jury of his peers not some mindless robots.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 273 points 2 days ago (30 children)
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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 121 points 2 days ago

Sympathy and empathy are definitely a problem in an openly corrupt, heartless justice system that only serves the elite.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 112 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 117 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"Jury nullification is a fundamental aspect of the American jury system, allowing jurors to acquit defendants despite overwhelming evidence of guilt if they deem the law unjust or immoral. This concept has its roots in colonial America and has been exercised throughout U.S. history, often in response to unjust laws or societal norms."

For those not on the know.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 136 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I thought they put the terrorist charge on him precisely to avoid requiring a jury as part of all the ~~rights~~ privileges we surrendered post 9/11 in the name of... Pffff... National security.

National security being hilarious considering the CEOs are still walking the streets free, murdering citizens for profit having never not being actively sucked off by legislators that passed the patriot act and similar legislation.

The murderous Shareholders are already inside the house. They own the house. You can barely afford to rent it from them.

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 76 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I don't think that's why they charged him with terrorism. The reason that some terrorism trials are (were?) done in secret in the past I believe is because most of the evidence that would have been presented would have been classified. I don't think there is any classified evidence related to Luigi's trial.

I think it's more likely that they added the terrorism charge just as an enhancement to potentially add time to his sentence or more opportunities for him to be convicted of something. However, someone posted an insightful comment here a couple of days ago, pointing out that in order to prove terrorism they will have to discuss his motivations at length, which will only make him more sympathetic to most jurors.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 76 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe this is somewhat similar to a woman killing her rapist, after police refuse to investigate? There are probably examples of leniency in such cases.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)

These clowns have no idea they're so out of touch with everyday Americans

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago
[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 132 points 2 days ago

I wonder why

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 127 points 2 days ago (5 children)

When this happens, it means the laws that enable these people are no longer acceptable to the people. That's a dangerous place to be.

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