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Google pays Apple $18B to $20B a year to keep its search in iPhone::Bernstein estimates value of agreement, warns it and similar deals may end if DoJ wins antitrust case

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[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That is a lot of money for a search engine that barely works.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It barely works because it makes a lot of money

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No, no. It makes aot of money because it barely works!

[–] erwan@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

That's what they need to pay to get people to use it.

When Google was released in the 90's they didn't have to pay anyone, everyone wanted to use it.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They make it work poorly so you’re more likely to click on the ads. True story.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Suddenly I don't feel at all ashamed of blocking ads. 😮

[–] synceDD@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You never were freeloader lmao

[–] ogeist@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Won't this kill Firefox? As far as I understand Google is providing a lot of funding with the default search engine agreement.

Related: https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4387539/firefox-money-investigating-the-bizarre-finances-of-mozilla

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It would definitely require a substantial effort for Mozilla to find other funding. If I were Mozilla right now I would be trying to secure other deals to act as a safety net if this ruling goes through.

That said, with Firefox being open source apart from the branding another group could pick up development if Mozilla were to somehow go under. One of the popular "spins" of Firefox could become the predominant version and could see further browser development there.

[–] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It basically already has killed Firefox for normies, though. It's just taking a long time to die. Have a look at their market share over the last decade. Hopefully enough people keep using it that it stays actively developed, but that's hardly guaranteed.

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

It only needs enough users that Google keeps paying enough to be the default search engine.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where's my 'invisible hand of the free market' guys?

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

That's literally it though

Really shows how much can be made from handling search queries doesn’t it.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hell, I'll spread word of mouth $75,000 a year.

[–] SmoothIsFast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Welcome to a mid level sales position.

[–] Tick_Dracy@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even though I use iOS devices, Google isn’t my search engine on these devices. I can understand an organization like Mozilla needing the money from Google, but when we’re talking about a trillion dollar company, I cannot have the same understanding.

[–] ours@lemmy.film 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like corporations would pass on literally tens of billions of dollars (yearly) just because they are big.

Unless Apple had it's own competing search service they have no reason to pass on that much money unless it becomes a huge liability.

[–] Tick_Dracy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I guess you’re right. And maybe most is their users are fine (or prefer) to use Google search, so that’s even a plus for Apple.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Why?

How would iPhone users feel if Google wasn't available on their phone?