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Afghanistan: Taliban ordered women training as midwives and nurses not to return to classes - effectively closing off their last route to further education in the country (www.bbc.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago by tardigrada@beehaw.org to c/news@beehaw.org

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Five separate institutions across Afghanistan have confirmed that the Taliban had instructed them to close until further notice, with videos shared online showing students crying at the news.

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However, the closure appears to be in line with the group's wider policy on female education, which has seen teenage girls unable to access secondary and higher education since August 2021.

The Taliban have repeatedly promised they would be readmitted to school once a number of issues were resolved - including ensuring the curriculum was "Islamic". This has yet to happen.

One of the few avenues still open to women seeking education was through the country's further education colleges, where they could learn to be nurses or midwives.

Midwifery and nursing are also one of the only careers women can pursue under the Taliban government's restrictions on women - a vital one, as male medics are not allowed to treat women unless a male guardian is present.

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In videos sent to the BBC from other training colleges, trainees can be heard weeping.

"Standing here and crying won’t help," a student tells a group of women in one video. "The Vice and Virtue officials [who enforce Taliban rules] are nearby, and I don’t want anything bad to happen to any of you."

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Another student revealed they "were only given time to grab our bags and leave the classrooms".

"They even told us not to stand in the courtyard because the Taliban could arrive at any moment, and something might happen. Everyone was terrified," she said. "For many of us, attending classes was a small glimmer of hope after long periods of unemployment, depression, and isolation at home."

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[–] tardigrada@beehaw.org 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I forget to post an important issue mentioned in the article:

Afghanistan already has one of the worst maternal mortality rates in the world, according to the World Health Organization (WHO), with a report released last year noting 620 women were dying per 100,000 live births.

Addition:

Taliban shuts down women-only cafes in Herat province, citing ‘moral concerns’

In a new wave of restrictions targeting women’s freedoms in Afghanistan, Taliban authorities have closed women-only cafes in Herat province. These establishments, which were operated by women for women, have been forcibly shut down by the Ministry of Virtue and Vice officials.

The cafe owners, in their conversations with Radio Azadi, revealed that Taliban authorities justified the closures by claiming these venues could potentially lead to moral corruption. This action represents yet another step in the Taliban’s systematic limitation of women’s social spaces.

[–] Chuymatt@beehaw.org 11 points 3 weeks ago

And in keeping with conservatives all over the world, the war on women never ends

[–] 667@lemmy.radio 15 points 3 weeks ago

Taliban, August 2021: “We’ll be different this time, we swear!”

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago

I can only imagine the Taliban making all these promises on camera and them having a laughing fit when the camera is off. Who the fuck would ever believe any of that?

Same goes for trump, Musk and the rest, by the way

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay up until now you could kinda sorta see what they're trying to do if you try to think as an old Middle Eastern guy who thinks Islam allows him to be a bigot, but this is just weird as fuck. Preventing women from becoming midwives means that only men will be able to help women give birth, which Islamically MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING SENSE. I thought I knew what these guys are doing, but now I have no idea.

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago

the point is isolating women and keeping them lonely and dependant on men. it has nothing to do with morals.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

American occupation forces should have armed and trained the women.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 3 points 3 weeks ago

my grandma told me to always hear what the women say

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know much about Islam, but I'm pretty confident based on what I see in, oh I dunno, every other Muslim country, that their policies are just too extreme. I mean, they make Saudi and Iran look woke. What the fuck are Muslim leaders saying/doing about this shit? It must at least annoy them.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not even extreme; that applies to most of their decisions, but not this one, which literally makes no sense. The 100% Islamic thing to do even if you don't care about women's lives or autonomy or any of that would be to encourage women to become doctors so they can treat other women and minimize haram mixing between genders. I mean they haven't exactly been following Islam up to this point but this time it's particularly egregious because it crosses from "Islam doesn't tell you/allow you to do that what the fuck are you doing" to "Islam explicitly tells you not to do this what the fuck are you doing".

Source: Am Muslim, up until now I could at least comprehend most of their decisions (in the sense that I was familiar with the thought process that lead to them because misogyny is everywhere around here; I obviously don't condone any of it), but now I'm as flabbergasted as everyone else.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is this like some weird Pashtun cultural thing?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

I seriously have no idea.