That was just the tech weenies with their 'architecturally sound strategy' or whatever, before the business side ~~beat~~ talked some sense into them.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Which MS didn't deny until they announced they were working on Win 11.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

Well, they actually always had an End-of-Life date slated for 2025. But yeah, it wasn't clear, if that was there just in case, or if they never expected to go through with what they'd been telling people.

[–] K4mpfie@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

No they did not. An Engineer said it was the last Windows in the context of "the latest Version". The press just ran with the wrong headline.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Even tho my pc can run windoes 11, still running linux on it.

[–] peetabix@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Me too. Bought a HP laptop made sure it was AMD. It came with win11, wiped it and installed Linux as soon as I got home.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

My PC has an NVIDIA card, will that be a problem?

[–] radfordhound@programming.dev 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I also have a NVIDIA card, and I use Linux with Wayland. It's usable for sure! But people are honestly downplaying the issues a lot.

I've had a lot of bugs and issues that are pretty annoying, such as apps flickering, performance sometimes (rarely) falling off a cliff for seemingly no reason, the card underclocking itself sometimes when waking from sleep (which kills performance until you reboot), and worst of all, random kernel panics that force me to hit the reset button, losing any unsaved work and risking a filesystem corruption (because there's no safe way to shutdown since everything is completely and utterly locked up).

I've reported these bugs, and most of them have actually been fixed in the latest driver versions! But the kernel panics still happen once in a while, and that's not great.

So be warned! But don't be scared off. All of these issues are infrequent. Most of the time, it works without issue, and games actually run really great!

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Nah, I have never major found problems with nvidia (A gtx 1650 gpu) on linux especially wayland.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Its not a big problem like it is made out to be. There are some distros that don't ship nVidia drivers (and so you have to find the repo in your distro that does come contain it. I.e. Debian has an repo for it that isn't readily advertised) so some people have had a hard time. Some distros are just a checkbox this add nVidia. Some like SUSE/OpenSUSE have a repo that nVidia specifically hosts and maintains. So results vary, but I can say I have not had issues with nVidia

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sometimes the best thing to do to a Window is leave it closed, forever.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I can't. I use AutoCAD in my side hustle...

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago

TLDR; go to Linux

[–] anonymous111@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

[Serious question] Did Microsoft need to fundamentally change something, and that is why they back tracked on their Win10 evergreen promise? Or is this just a cash grab?

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm sure that it's just the marketing dept changing hands over time. Marketing teams are like a Scott's Tots situation: they are just trying to say whatever makes the product numbers look good in the near term. Fulfilling on any promises is a future marketing team's job.

"Of all the empty promises I have made, this one is by far the most generous"

- Michael Scott/Microsoft's marketing team

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Microsoft has done this with every windows they've made. After the support period is over, you can pay for additional for a few years to help you transition. This one is so loud because windows 11 was such a privacy bait and switch.

Windows 11 is basically Windows 10, internally it hasn't changed names. They have to have an external trade name for it or people won't realize they're "behind."

[–] myrrh@ttrpg.network 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

...can i reposition my taskbar?..no?..then it's not the f*cking same...

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I wish that the only problem I had with windows 11 was that I couldn't reposition the taskbar.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

They started requiring the use of motherboards with a TPM. Which is compete and utter bullshit because you need to disable the chip to dual-boot, yet Windows 11 will run for several months at a time with the chip disabled before it complains and forces you to temporarily turn it back on again. So requiring it for "security" is just an excuse to force you to buy new hardware.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Or you can send your windows 11 incompatible PCs to me, I'll take good care of them 😁

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

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[–] millie@beehaw.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Glad to hear about 0patch being an option.

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