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Meta post I've decided to make. I enjoyed the unixporn subreddit a lot when I used reddit more. I enjoy customizing my linux de as much as the next nerd.

But you definitely shouldn't use racist slang to refer to the process.

To be clear, I didn't know the origin of the term 'ricing' until fairly recently. I was chattimg with my friend and used it to describe my de setup. They informed me that apparently it's from car customization, and is a pejorative against generally asian men who customize their car to look like a racecar.

After learning this I was sad to realize just how engrained it is in linux de customization culture. I personally have stopped using the term, and I would ask everyone here stop as well.

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[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Asian here and rice eater here.

Language doesn't work in absolute way, it could change its meaning all the time.

It's better to regain is neutral meaning instead of letting the racist weaponize neutral word.

Also, this mindset is also Western centric, go to Asia and people in Linux and car community simply use the word without any negative connotation.

Edit: By doing this, you're no different from imperial government who tries to make one standard of morality, which in fact further hurts Asian living in Asia. And as Indonesian, I'm hurt with your statement. Let me regain the neutral meaning. Don't speak for us.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The arguments being made here are the same ones that were used for f*ggot, tr*p, nword, g*psy, r*dskins, etc etc etc.

It's the same damn thing every single time, a bunch of reactionaries will piss and whine and piss and whine and piss and whine because they have to make the most minimal amount of effort to adopt a new word in their vocabulary instead of the problem one. They will piss and whine forever until eventually accepting it, like all the others historically.

They join a long long line of pissy whiney losers for making the same tired old arguments we've seen for so many things before.

[–] supert@lemmy.sdfeu.org 1 points 1 year ago

This is an example of the American cultural imperialism someone else was whining about above. In the UK a f@ggot is a type of food. There are adverts on the telly for it. A fag is a cigarette. Gypsy is not necessarily perjorative (it appears as a category on the census). Not sure what tr*p is, but if it's tramp, that's a homeless person. Also, a fanny is ladybits.

[–] unix_joe@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a stupid term that is based on an antiquated mindset where Asian people are not creative and cannot invent anything of substance; we are only able to poorly imitate what the West develops. It needs to die.

Also, I've been using and customizing the X Window-based desktop for 25 years and I'm not sure that the term "ricing" was ever used anywhere before Reddit and even then only within the past decade or so. Let it die with that culture.

[–] xXthrowawayXx@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m with you especially on that last part. My most insane privately racist lug-mate called it modding or customization. Even in the windows shell hacking scene no one described it like that.

I do like using “tuning” though, fond memories of import tuner magazine and my dearly departed first car and first computer.

[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

If you cant put a set of rays on your pc can you even call it done? 😤

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Now they need to just find an Asian person saying it's not a big deal so they can dismiss your comment.

[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

The "pick-me"s are almost as bad

[–] NorthCountryHermit@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago
[–] ntzm@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I wasn't aware of this, thank you for posting

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Linguist here. Totally agree the term should stop being used. As a practical concern, it would be easier to get people to stop using it if there were another term that was a drop-in replacement.

Yeah, we can say "customize" as the verb, but what about the noun? Sharing "customizations" doesn't really refer to the same kind of DE-specific customization as the other term.

Is there any such word in usage? If not, can we coin one and just start dropping it on forums?

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[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Discussions like this always bring me back to one thing...can a word itself be racist? Is it racist to use a word if it's not being said with racist intent? It's reminiscent of the gimp debacle...if a words use isn't intended to offend it's honestly beyond me how anyone could find it offensive. Are we supposed to ban every single word that has the slightest history of being used in an offensive fashion? Feel like we'd have a really long list if we did that.

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

lmao like moths to a flame

@dessalines@lemmy.ml there's a lot of cryptofash in here begging the question that need to be banned, not merely have their comments removed

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[–] inasaba@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for making this post. The number of times I've seen the term used here lately has been bothering me.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (21 children)

The hexbear squad is really brigading the fuck out of this thread.

[–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Instance has comparatively high and active userbase with a very high percentage of Linux users

Is this brigading? is-this

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[–] ElGosso@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Noooooo don't comment on our public post on social media that we purposely allowed you to comment on wojak-nooo

[–] s0ykaf@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

thread appears on our feeds. we comment on it.

i understand it feels bad to have your beliefs questioned, but that's not brigading, it's simply how these websites work

[–] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

there is no such thing as "brigading" in federation. it is just people commenting you don't agree with

[–] jackoid@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

This thread has 400 comments. It's on everyone's feed who federated with lemmy.ml

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going to continue using it.

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[–] tun@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

TIL the origin of the word.

But I am confused. Anyone offended for using the word?

When repos changed to main from master, I got problems.

People are hypersensitive over these words now.

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[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, I like the term.

It refers to early 00s car culture, a race car had all go no show, a ricer had all show no go. It's just the next iteration of the term. And it's pejorative to anyone who does that shit, not asian men. I have no idea where y'all got that idea from.

[–] RTRedreovic@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the heads up. I tried looking up the origins of the term once long back when I first heard it but could never find it after a search. This again makes me iterate how Racist and White-centric the Internet is in general, which is observable to me as a person from Assam.

Another term people should avoid is the «soyboy» meme term. It is also a racially prejudiced word against Asians.

  • https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/soy_boy, Soy consumption is high in many Asian countries. (There is no scientific evidence for any correlation between soy consumtion and feminization for anyone curious to know.)
[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Yes please, I agree.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How the fresh fuck is this even a thing still? Even back in the 90's I heard dudes making gags about "Uncle Ben Hot Rods". You know. RICE IT UP!

GET IT? They're shitty race cars made by a shitty race who only makes cheap stuff!

🤮

[–] flan@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I'm actually amazed people are still using this term. Figures it's about computers though lol, of course the antisocial nerds are stronger holdouts than car enthusiasts.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Im asian. I eat and like rice, even on my setups. I'm gonna keep using rice cause its not my fault yall western imperialists fuck shit up and dont wanna be reminded of it. also very western centric debate. Good job debate perverts.

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