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Puerto Ricans cannot vote in general elections despite being U.S. citizens, but they can exert a powerful influence with relatives on the mainland. Phones across the island of 3.2 million people were ringing minutes after the speaker derided the U.S. territory Sunday night, and they still buzzed Monday.

Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris is competing with Trump to win over Puerto Rican communities in Pennsylvania and other swing states. Shortly after stand-up comic Tony Hinchcliffe said that, “I don’t know if you guys know this, but there’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico,” Puerto Rican reggaeton superstar Bad Bunny announced he was backing Harris.

After Sunday’s rally, a senior adviser for the Trump campain, Danielle Alvarez, said in a statement that Hinchcliffe’s joke did “not reflect the views of President Trump or the campaign.”

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago

I can just hear those MAGA morons smugly chuckling, "What can they do LOL they can't even vote, fuck 'em!"

No, fuck you.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 206 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Why the fuck are US citizens not allowed to vote in a US election?

[–] TRBoom@lemm.ee 170 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because each state is given the power to elect a president, not the voters. Puerto Rico isn’t a state so their voters aren’t represented properly.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 72 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i mean the technicallity is that washington dc isnt a state either, so the better answer is that you need to live in a region where you have representatives.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Also because DC and PR would most likely vote democrats it makes it harder. Most of the time when a state joined the union there was a fight.

[–] zombyreagan@lemm.ee 63 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Dc does not have voting representatives in congress. They only get electoral votes because of the 23rd ammendment

[–] grue@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The better question is "why didn't the 23^rd^ grant voting rights to all US citizens in all territories?"

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago

gonna be honest with you, its racism.

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because of slavery, basically. The US couldn't have a directly-elected president at founding because that would mean slaveholding states would get less power per person actually living there, unless they wanted to let slaves vote which of course they wouldn't. So 3/5ths compromise, electoral college, yadda yadda yadda, and 250 years later power still is filtered through the states. So now that that's the case, giving any new people voting rights would change the power balance between the ~~slaveholders~~ right and ~~abolitionists~~ left. So as a result, places like PR that have an abnormal amount of ~~minorities~~ Democratic voters tend to be unable to get Congress to grant them voting rights.

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[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 31 points 1 day ago (10 children)

What happened to “no taxation without representation”..?

Ask some of the 14-17 year olds working their first jobs paying tax without the ability to vote. That was never a real concern for anyone outside landowning whites.

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 77 points 1 day ago (5 children)

the electoral college values different things than the will of the populace

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

one more reason why the popular vote would be better than the shitshow this is

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

History tells me that if the US is disenfranchising a group of people, it's usually racism

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[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

After Sunday’s rally, a senior adviser for the Trump campain, Danielle Alvarez, said in a statement that Hinchcliffe’s joke did “not reflect the views of President Trump or the campaign.”

His "set" absolutely reflects the views of Trump and his campaign. That is why he felt comfortable saying those things.

It's not like the racism of Tony Hinchcliffe was a secret that he kept carefully hidden from public view which caught the organizers by surprise. It took me about a minute of searching who this guy was before landing on the Tony Hinchcliffe Wikipedia page which covers his racist performance in Austin just 3 years ago.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 75 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I look forward to the inevitable exit polls showing just how much Nazi Fest 2024 sank the GröpenFührer/Cöuchfücker ticket.

Come on, sanity! You can do it!

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