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[–] _____@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

I don't think I'm very ND but it's very obvious to me in all social settings that I'm not NT. it's a variety of things, but typically it's like people staring straight into your eye balls when you talk to them, or the touching, or things like queueing or pathing to and from a place

[–] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 17 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

A friend recently commented "Of course you have ADHD! Just look at your apartment! Spots that are important for your hobbies are designed with surgical precision and everything else slowly sinks into chaos."

He might be right.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

My kids got screening forms for ADHD and I just kept saying "but this is normal" after almost all of the questions, I thought they were control questions not screening questions, and my kids were like "no, Mom, you have ADD". I still tend to think it's pretty typical though, more like our brains just weren't evolved for modern life.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 11 points 8 hours ago

I dated a girl who worked with elderly neurodivergent people. She was at my place and i heard the dryer was done with it's cycle. I said i'll have to go and make my bed, because you know how it is, if you don't do it right away, you're not doing it for two weeks.

She laughed and said: but you know why "we" have to do that, right? I was like: what? No. And she said, because we have adhd.

I just laughed and thought: YOU have adhd, i do..... Oooooooooooh

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 29 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Some person I just met at a party asked me if I have Asperger’s. He explained he has Asperger’s himself and just wondered.

I thought it was a rude remark of him. Especially since we barely know each other. I certainly don’t have Asperger’s.

This was some years ago.

Either way, I just got diagnosed.

[–] ODuffer@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Yeah at a party here as well. I was told I had ASD, but was 'high functioning', and able to mask it. Sounds about right.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I got a weird one. Multiple friends, including one who is diagnosed with autism and one who is diagnosed with ADHD and family members have asked me if I thought I had some form of neurodivergence. The autist friend thinks probably autism, the ADHD friend thinks maybe ADHD. The others, who don't know much, mostly asked about autism or aspergers. But I don't see ASD as fitting at all.

I'm quite introverted and don't do well in big social situations, sure. I also don't deal well with conflict even if I'm not directly involved. But I have no issue with faces, or eye contact, or body language, or reading emotions, or sarcasm.

I'm quite analytical in my thinking, but not overly so, I would say. Sometimes I get episodes of hyper-focus where I stay on a task for unnaturally long, not managing to take a break to eat and such. That one is a bit suspicious, but it's also a pretty rare occurrence.

[–] fjordbasa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

To be fair, there are symptoms shared between many ND diagnoses, and you can have aspects of one or more without meeting the criteria for diagnosis. At the end of the day, I think it's about helping to find resources to help your individual situation

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 8 hours ago

No one person specifically, but it was all the ADHD memes that had me actually go and get checked. Ended up diagnosed with ADHD, Asperger's, and BPD. I didn't even know about BPD until I was told I had it.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Everybody every day. It's not glamorous the way you all sell it.

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I didn't get converted to a permanent position after a whole year at my job. The only negative feedback (among otherwise great remarks) I had was six months in:

  1. Be more organized and send updates more often.
  2. Speak without tangents or sounding scattered.
  3. Improve prediction of how long tasks will take and completion dates when considering other priorities.

Does anyone want to guess my diagnosis?* Lol

The maddening thing is that I didn't get any follow-up after those comments until five months later, when I got the surprising news that they would not be continuing with me. If I had thought my subsequent med change and work strategies were not, in fact, improving my performance, I would have pursued accommodations.

  • It's ADHD.
[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 6 points 8 hours ago

I have often been asked if I have autism. They often seem ready to wonder this if it seems like a situation is approaching where I can't, in their eyes and their words, "read the room". The very concept "of reading the room", they then have to be told, plays out differently even on a cultural level. I am not of a common cultural background, and this is said to demonstrate itself in, say, seeing someone's arms crossed. I see crossed arms and, if anything, I'm going to assume "decision maker mode". They then ask "don't you see I'm angry".

For our sake, I'd be lying to say I don't operate based on "tell, don't show", which is the opposite of what others often say, which is supposed to be beneficial yet often gives off the opposite impression because people want to cling to the idea that assumptions are inherent. People often also complain about how complex yet semantically loose (owing to "culture", but at the same time I wonder why people, again, use their own expectations of verbal norms to assume what something must mean, instead of acknowledging dictionary-described words and sentences are just the word equivalent of mathematical equations) my communication is. Relevantly, that can be combined with my experiences with, ironically, people bashing me for not living up to their "unspoken directives" rather than gentility inspired by how I would say I expect logic to work, to produce the impression in me that maybe neurodivergent people are onto something with their sense of clockwork, placing me in what could be called autistic culture by nurture rather than nature, as is my calling when I'm told I'm only destined to rattle around in the realm of normal people. The neurotypical practice of succumbing to bias based on trained taboo and the infallibility of their dear ones (relevant among the gossipers) has done nothing except disillusion me in the presence of all who willingly exist without a striving for protocol clockwork, and if I had an ark, I would fill it with these neurodivergent people they say they fear.

[–] astrsk@fedia.io 5 points 8 hours ago

It’s not a specific person and not directly confronting me but the thing that really helped open my eyes was all the people out there that have at most 1 or 2 hobbies. Like, I talk about all the things I want to learn and do all the time but everyone else always has this one particular thing. How do people only have 2 things they do ever, for years. I didn’t get it. I’m in the process of approaching testing with my counselors now.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 37 points 14 hours ago

Does my doctor who stopped in the middle of an appointment, looked at me, and said "you know you're neurodivergent, right?" count?

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 47 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I was hospitalized for a seizure recently and the nurse ended up going and grabbing me a little silicon bubble fidget thing because I just couldn't stop messing with shit.

Edit: exact phrasing was "let me go grab you something to play with"

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

My boss has got very high EQ, but tends to have fraught, tense relationships with our female coworkers (I described it to my husband as working with a mother and daughter who don’t get along- they say a bunch of things that seem nice and also seem to hurt each other a lot and I don’t know why).

She sometimes says passive aggressive things to me, but it always takes me too long to parse passive aggression in person, so I respond completely earnestly. This seems to confuse her without being rude, and she’s just vexed by me.

Actually, passive aggression in general makes me feel very neurodivergent.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly this seems like the best way to deal with someone being passive aggressive. If they have a problem make them actually say something.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I fully agree. It’s not always intentional, because sometimes I do pick up on it (probably the non native language + work makes it just impossible to get in the moment from her), but I almost always pretend not to, and it generally defuses the situation pretty well.

I’m also a crier, so the alternative is not great

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

No I changed my mind next time you should start balling. Like the ugly kind of crying that makes it hard for others to look.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I do this on purpose. I also ignore all the signs that someone's taking to me "just to be nice". If you're nice, then you're nice. If you're just pretending to be nice, suck it up cuz it's working.

[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

I was at a party just yesterday (very unlike me) that was mostly people I don't know and within the first hour someone asked me if I was on ADHD medication.

I mean I'm not on medication which is probably how I got pinned so quickly but I still found it funny that in a crowd of people that has never met me I apparently still scream TISM.

[–] earlgrey0@sh.itjust.works 31 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I am learning an instrument as an adult and my instructor commented “You’re so good at recognizing patterns.” That comment hit way harder than it had any right to.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Reminds me of one of mine. In the middle of my lesson, my instrument teacher paused to ask me some questions: can you tie your shoes without looking? Do you have trouble unlocking your door in the dark? Etc. Turns out I have little to no muscle memory lol.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago

Holy crap is that a thing? I have to pay attention to stuff like that - I will be brushing my teeth and it seems awkward and I'll realize I'm using my non dominant hand.

Though my feet do point reflexively when I jump or kick, and arm positions for dance I can feel still, large motor skills my body remembers.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

We're in the ancestor simulation, buddy. It's why being decent is painted as rebellious and we all hear "you're very observant" all the time.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

If you don't mind me asking is there more context to this or was it literally in the middle of an annual physical or something

[–] earlgrey0@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

Nope, just finished some scales and arpeggios and was moving on to some warm up pieces.

[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I think you replied to the wrong comment. Most music instructors don't do those, haha

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 1 points 50 minutes ago

You're right but this is funny so I'm gonna leave it here.

[–] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Sounds like you're going to the wrong music instructors.

[–] tophneal@sh.itjust.works 10 points 12 hours ago

I was working on a personal project when a friend visited. I went through a quick series of successes and failures with my project and openly emoted at each, afterward he said to me "I've never seen anyone go through so many emotions in such a short amount of time."

[–] zoostation@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

A friend posted a link to something and mentioned me saying "you're hyper literal brain will like this" and when I got done being annoyed about the typo I realized for the first time I am excessively literal.

Another time at lunch with a friend she mentioned in an offhand way that I have anxiety and that was when I first realized what anxiety is and that it's not normal to feel the way I do all the time.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

and when I got done being annoyed about the typo I realized

I love this excessively literal description :)

[–] zoostation@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It was 13 years ago but I still can't forget the typo.

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago

I know that. I don’t get annoyed by typos in internet comments, but when a news organization has a typo I hate that whole article. even if it’s just, a wrongly placed comma, or missing a capital letter.

[–] thebirdwashere@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago

It took me revisiting this comment to see the type and uh.... AAAAA

[–] iii@mander.xyz 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Had 2 psychologists refuse to work with me, after they got to know me

[–] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

For extra context, various therapeutic methods do not work as well on neurodivergent people, especially people on the spectrum. CBT, one of the main go-to (adjunctive at least) therapies for example, is nearly useless for most folks on the spectrum.

So it may be that their therapists discovered they were not equipped to help op with their issue(s).

[–] ScreamingFirehawk@feddit.uk 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Psychologists don't just refuse to work with neurodivergent people, if they did that would be a lot of patients. There is a lot more context to this statement that you haven't shared.

[–] derekabutton@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

I think you misunderstand. Psychologists may presumably refuse to work with individuals with this user's particular neurodivergence.

It's not exactly the same as a real life situation, but Tony Soprano's psychiatrist eventually refuses to work with him over some (perhaps misdiagnosed) sociopathy.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago

In my case, they did. Yes, of course there is more context.

[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

My psychiatrist does all the time

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

…not until now…

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Probably in their mind, but not that I'd care to pay attention; so not obvious to me.

Human beings are diverse. defining a human as "divergent" is meaningless and so fucking dumb. Psychologists seem to be really bad at statistical analysis; and/or data collection that is representative of the species. But they're maybe good at conning mugs to pay them to denigrate people who don't fit their world view, or confound their predictions.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

It's not meaningless. Some peoples brain work in a completely different way than the majority, and why should we ignore that? It's very important knowledge to figure out things.

It's not like it's a tiny scale of small differences between people. It's more like 99% being quite similar and then 1% being completely different. That is very significant. Numbers are made up to make a point.

It's almost like saying let's not study sociopaths because they are just like everyone else. They aren't.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 0 points 8 hours ago

"Completely" different, interesting way to put it. Diagnosis must be trivial.